Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
264 pages of uncredibility 1/31/2011 5:20:06 PM |
Milkboner Suspended 934 Posts user info edit post |
we need a next game thread
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jstpack All American 2184 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We took Bell over Wilcox...Bell was considered a slam dunk recruit by many. (I believe Bell was top 10 at his position). Don't think Wilcox had a qualification problem...we just didn't want him as much as Bell... I don't think Wicox was as highly recruited
Actually, we had Steve Blake in our back pocked too, but I think we took Cliff Crawford over him instead.
Gary made a living off of Herb. Same goes with John Gilchrist
EDIT: Just looked it up, and it looks like both were top 100 players....with Wilcox in the top 25 and bell in the top 75. I certainly don't remember Wilcox being that high, so I'll retract my statement. I do know that Bell was no slouch and we didn't get "stuck" with him....he was very highly touted. Bell might have just been a better fit for Herb becuase he supposedly had good range for a high school forward? All I know is that from everything I've been told about that recruitment was that we didn't want Wilcox.... or at least that we didn't want him as much. Really...wtf would Herb have done with Wilcox? " |
No need to retract, as you're partially right.
We did favor Bell over Wilcox, because Bell could stretch the floor --- but also because it was a huge question mark whether he could qualify under our admissions standards. (the same standards that Any Katz covered last week as scaring off Calipari).
Wilcox, Bell and Blake were all interested in coming here. Especially Blake. Taking Crawford over Blake was an idiotic choice on Hreb's part. But, Wilcox was dumb as a stump, or we would've taken him and Bell together, from what I understood about the situation.
All ancient history now, however.
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simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Booing when he was introduced at home games, creation of websites, fans launching attacks through the media and message boards, and some pretty distasteful things said about him publicly." |
give me a fucking break.1/31/2011 5:54:20 PM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
What part wasn't true? IF we start behaving this way again the media will be all over our asses yet again. We aren't the media darling Carolina is if we give them any excuse for negative stories they will take it.
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tommy wiseau All American 2624 Posts user info edit post |
what are you even talking about at this point 1/31/2011 6:01:55 PM |
DROD900 All American 24654 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Honestly it doesnt make a difference how we treat lowe on his way out the door, if our next coach has worse results than our previous the media will rip us. Winning fixes everything." |
1/31/2011 6:02:49 PM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""Honestly it doesnt make a difference how we treat lowe on his way out the door, if our next coach has worse results than our previous the media will rip us. Winning fixes everything."" |
This is bullshit. We were getting ripped before Lowe was even hired. Hell we were getting ripped before Sendek even left!
My big question for milkboner is why is the idea of behaving in a classy manner so distasteful to you? I mean who does it really hurt for our fans to at least attempt to take the high road while our AD does her job? Why provide ammo for a Carolina blue blinded media base?
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Milkboner Suspended 934 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "My big question for milkboner is why is the idea of behaving in a classy manner so distasteful to you?" |
Behaving in a classy manner is not distasteful to me.1/31/2011 6:16:29 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What part wasn't true? IF we start behaving this way again the media will be all over our asses yet again. We aren't the media darling Carolina is if we give them any excuse for negative stories they will take it." |
I had season tickets for every one of Herb's seasons. Never heard him booed during intro's, even in his last year. That shit is totally made up. Not saying you're making it up (or that fans weren't pissed with him), I'm sure someone like Tim Brando said it first. ]1/31/2011 6:17:06 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148329 Posts user info edit post |
I went to games where people had 'Fire Sendek' signs, and other fans booed those fans for bringing that negative shit to the games 1/31/2011 6:21:52 PM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
I was at games where Sendek was booed during intros. Call me a liar or whatever the fuck you want but I WAS THERE AND I HEARD IT. 1/31/2011 6:36:01 PM |
Walter All American 7738 Posts user info edit post |
1/31/2011 6:37:11 PM |
Milkboner Suspended 934 Posts user info edit post |
Our fans booed Daniel Evans and now we're a 9 win football program.
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hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I was at games where Sendek was booed during intros. Call me a liar or whatever the fuck you want but I WAS THERE AND I HEARD IT." |
What percentage of the fans there were booing? If your answer is anything over 2 or 3%, then yes, I'm calling you a liar.1/31/2011 6:38:52 PM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
They were numerous enough that it could clearly be heard during introductions and it MADE US LOOK BAD.
Quote : | " Our fans booed Daniel Evans and now we're a 9 win football program." |
Our fans booed herb sendek and we ended up with a desperation hire. Really worked out well didn't it?
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jstpack All American 2184 Posts user info edit post |
We have some awful, and delusional fans, no doubt about that.
But, everybody does. Ours just happen to be slightly more retarded than others.
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hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Nope 1/31/2011 6:44:46 PM |
Milkboner Suspended 934 Posts user info edit post |
^^^I don't agree with booing any of the players or coaches, but my point is that it's not the end of the world if it happens. It's certainly not as big of a deal as you and Bullet would have others believe.
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Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
I remember a game 04 when a guy took a dump in Sendek's seat when he wasn't looking] 1/31/2011 6:45:40 PM |
Milkboner Suspended 934 Posts user info edit post |
was that the same game where the guy wiped his ass with Sendek's tie? 1/31/2011 6:46:54 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
We've been miserable for the past 20 years in basketball..it's sooo shocking our fans come as assholes on the message boards. 1/31/2011 6:50:08 PM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
Whatever. I was there I heard it and anyone else who regularly attended games during that period heard it. The media ripped us heavily for it during our coaching search but I am sure it had no negative effects Hell you should start booing now I am sure it will just help our AD attract coaches and retain players... 1/31/2011 6:51:21 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
1/31/2011 6:53:56 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Whatever. I was there I heard it and anyone else who regularly attended games during that period heard it. The media ripped us heavily for it during our coaching search but I am sure it had no negative effects Hell you should start booing now I am sure it will just help our AD attract coaches and retain players..." |
Keep fightin the fight, adder.1/31/2011 7:00:19 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
The media has nothing to do with anything. Criticizing Lowe isn't controversial at all. Nor would firing him be. Not even sure why it's being brought up.
Lowe was a consensus coach on the hot seat every single place you looked this year.
Also x2asnice sort of had a breakdown here, from the looks of it. 1/31/2011 7:02:22 PM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
^^You probably weren't even a student at the time so why don't you fuck off.
Registered : 4/7/2010 (299.0 days ago)
What is the premise of your argument? Asshole fans are a good selling point for potential coaches?
^ The media isn't an issue right now but after that idiotic graphic during the UNC game I am concerned that they are looking for an excuse to become an issue. I fully believe that the lunatic fringe of the fan base is going to become extremely vocal and make us all look bad.
[Edited on January 31, 2011 at 7:06 PM. Reason : ^] 1/31/2011 7:03:42 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
What part of I had season tickets every year of Herb's tenure did you not understand? My premise is that you seem to think we have asshole fans who treated Herb like shit. Not true at all. It's easy to read a fanbase as negative if the message boards are all you have to go on, especially when we've had nothing really great to be positive about during the entire message board era. And I know for a goddamn fact I've seen more NC State games than your overly positive ass has.
What the fuck kind of anti-depressants are you on? I need that shit, pronto.
And who gives a shit if Jay Bilas and Tim Brando talk shit about us? You know what would shut them up? Winning. If we were winning right now you wouldn't see one bullshit graphic about Herb fucking Sendek.
[Edited on January 31, 2011 at 7:18 PM. Reason : f] 1/31/2011 7:13:35 PM |
Milkboner Suspended 934 Posts user info edit post |
The fans are going to be pissed when we lose games like Saturday where we go to play our biggest rival and our entire team looks like they are just out on the court to get the game over with. I'm not going to bust anyone's balls for being livid at the coach, especially when his track record is so awful.
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justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27783 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I had season tickets for every one of Herb's seasons. Never heard him booed during intro's, even in his last year" |
There were definitely games that last year where Sendek was booed during intros...loudly.
I know the RBC nazis also disposed of more than a few anti-sendek signs that year as well.1/31/2011 7:26:58 PM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "My premise is that you seem to think we have asshole fans who treated Herb like shit. Not true at all." |
9/10 people in the sports community would disagree completely with this statement. That is the problem. We gave the media ammunition with the Sendek issue we damn sure don't need to give them ammo when we get rid of Lowe.1/31/2011 7:29:11 PM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
Del Negro will be the new coach. 1/31/2011 7:34:31 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "we damn sure don't need to give them ammo when we get rid of Lowe." |
Do you not think Sendek and Lowe will be viewed differently by the media? There is NO BASIS for not shitting on Sidney's performance(not booing), I can see the non-regional media's problem with Sendek not being appreciated. (Most of our local media acknowledged his departure was the best for both parties)
If Sidney goes, there will not be anything close to the backlash of Herb leaving. ]1/31/2011 7:37:04 PM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Del Negro will be the new coach." |
I'm pretty sure you're joking but I'm hoping that Yow isn't stupid enough to consider it.1/31/2011 7:48:49 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148329 Posts user info edit post |
Del Negro was fired from Chicago after making the playoffs two straight seasons
Sounds kinda Sendekian 1/31/2011 7:51:01 PM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
Del Negro isn't a bad pro coach, but he would be a terrible hire for a major college basketball team.] 1/31/2011 7:58:18 PM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Do you not think Sendek and Lowe will be viewed differently by the media? There is NO BASIS for not shitting on Sidney's performance(not booing), I can see the non-regional media's problem with Sendek not being appreciated. (Most of our local media acknowledged his departure was the best for both parties)
If Sidney goes, there will not be anything close to the backlash of Herb leaving." |
I think right now we are fine. However I could easily state fans making a spectacle out of themselves (or students they haven't exactly been behaving too well with the Free Expression Tunnel) and this story quickly turning into "those rabid state fans turning on one of their own" which would be a convenient segue into rehashing Sendek. Also I am more concerned about the national media than the local media because coaching searches tend to be national.1/31/2011 8:07:25 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Del Negro doesn't have a degree I don't believe
But that didn't stop Fowler from hiring Lowe! Online degrees FTW! 1/31/2011 8:32:25 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39221 Posts user info edit post |
yep
an NBA coach is the way to go
(except not at all) 1/31/2011 8:40:00 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
There are no good alum coaches out there. Give it up.
The closest you'll find is Sean Miller or Andy Kennedy, but Miller has a great job already and Kennedy is a racist idiot and barely better than Lowe. 1/31/2011 8:44:49 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Guyz Duke's program went down the shitter when people were complaining about Coach K.
UNC never won anymore titles after hanging Dean Smith in effigy.
We didn't land a good football coach after booing Chuck off the field.
[Edited on January 31, 2011 at 8:52 PM. Reason : I like playing your side and twisting everything my way!] 1/31/2011 8:50:50 PM |
Bullet All American 28336 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I like playing your side and twisting everything my way!" |
less than impressive. keep trying, you'll get better!1/31/2011 8:54:16 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Fine. Let's kill this till after the Virginia Tech loss. 1/31/2011 8:55:39 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
pacifists in Egypt read this thread to be cheered up 1/31/2011 9:01:46 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148329 Posts user info edit post |
Bimbo Coles pulled his hammy today, might be out of the game tomorrow
looks like all of the offense will have to come from Dell Curry and Allan Bristow 1/31/2011 9:03:57 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Dad can ball, watch out. 1/31/2011 10:18:05 PM |
EMACK105 All American 580 Posts user info edit post |
im a sports fanatic...graduate and athlete from state 2004-2009
and i cant name more than 5 player from our team, they stink and i hate watching them
i previously watched them from mid 90's till 08...lucky to catch 3 games a year now (tv/AM/rbc)
they STINK 1/31/2011 11:31:18 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
^ Finally, some clarity in this thread. 1/31/2011 11:56:10 PM |
Senez All American 8112 Posts user info edit post |
Man, what were we thinking!?
2/1/2011 8:07:15 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
finally the truth. 2/1/2011 8:07:19 AM |