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ncsuallday
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http://mobile.salon.com/books/feature/2011/06/30/death_of_the_serial_oxford_comma/

GOODNIGHT SWEET PRINCE

Can't stop, won't stop

6/30/2011 2:23:34 PM

dweedle
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Quote :
"Can't stop, won't stop"

looks like you just did stop
more like
Can't stop, won't stop


NEVERMIND

thought this "oxford comma" was the comma w/ the ball on it

6/30/2011 2:25:49 PM

Skwinkle
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First sentence: iswsdt.

I do not use them. AP represent.

6/30/2011 2:25:57 PM

craptastic
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lol at dweedle

I will use the oxford comma until the day I die.

6/30/2011 2:29:01 PM

FroshKiller
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Skwinkle said:
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"First sentence: iswsdt."


Except that's a perfectly fine use of a comma to separate independent clauses, which is not even slightly the same as the use of a comma to separate the final dependent clause in a chain of dependent clauses. Both of you GTFO of here.

6/30/2011 2:29:30 PM

Jeepin4x4
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i will never stop using the oxford comma.


VIVA LA OC

6/30/2011 2:31:19 PM

dweedle
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i stopped using it a long time ago when some teacher 'corrected' it, i remember it ruining my day

6/30/2011 2:32:15 PM

begonias
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this makes me sad

6/30/2011 2:32:56 PM

nothing22
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Jeff, Travis and Mike are going to the party. What? No, Travis and Mike aren't gay; they just come as a pair now.

[Edited on June 30, 2011 at 2:33 PM. Reason : won't stop Ø]

6/30/2011 2:33:14 PM

elkaybie
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wtw? insanity!

6/30/2011 2:33:21 PM

Skwinkle
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"saddened, shocked, and mightily displeased" are not independent clauses

6/30/2011 2:33:27 PM

jdennis86
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Who gives a fuck about an Oxford comma?

6/30/2011 2:33:41 PM

FroshKiller
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oh i thought you were talking about "can't stop, won't stop"

ok you can stay but ncsuallday has to go

6/30/2011 2:33:54 PM

Skwinkle
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I was not. (I am also an editor.)

6/30/2011 2:35:37 PM

quagmire02
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6/30/2011 2:36:30 PM

ThePeter
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Skwinkle is not one whose grammar I'd challenge

6/30/2011 2:38:44 PM

Slave Famous
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I like omitting in the middle of the sentence

dweedle, jaybee, gunzz and ernie, guitarguy, and quagmire are my best friends on the internet

6/30/2011 2:41:13 PM

simonn
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i HATE the oxford comma. this is pleasing.

6/30/2011 2:41:20 PM

Skwinkle
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I have my flaws. Sometimes I don't capitalize trademarked items in informal communication.

Sometimes.

6/30/2011 2:41:41 PM

ThePeter
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After reading the article -

Wtf, I use those all the time

6/30/2011 2:41:56 PM

dweedle
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"Why, in a world where "M I RITE?" constitutes a legitimate conversational volley, would anyone care about an Oxford comma? It's precisely because grammar -- don't even get me started on spelling -- has become so expendable that it's conversely become so precious. A friend tells of a text she got prior to a first date with a new man that read, "I'm looking forward to seeing you, too." As she puts it, "A comma before the 'too'? Nobody does that anymore. I saw that and thought, 'I'm in luuuuuuuv.'""


well you can stick an exclamation point behind this...IM LEAVING!

6/30/2011 2:45:12 PM

wwwebsurfer
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OH IT'S GOING TO GET UGLY.

6/30/2011 2:48:46 PM

Skwinkle
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I'm actually a little surprised so many people care. I guess commas are super serial.

6/30/2011 2:50:26 PM

AxlBonBach
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WTF I was never taught anything other than the Oxford Comma.

6/30/2011 2:51:08 PM

wdprice3
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This makes no sense at all. I don't like it, no I do not. That comma plays an important role in correct interpretation.

6/30/2011 2:52:07 PM

GeniuSxBoY
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Someone hacked the system.

6/30/2011 2:53:26 PM

Norrin Radd
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"Jeff, Travis and Mike are going to the party. What? No, Travis and Mike aren't gay; they just come as a pair now.
"


Not to mention this could be construed as someone telling Jeff that Travis and Mike are going to a party.

6/30/2011 6:45:22 PM

stategrad100
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can I get a w00t w00t for the tittles in da house!


i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i

6/30/2011 6:59:46 PM

puck_it
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God damn it, so much.

6/30/2011 7:57:45 PM

GrumpyGOP
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I will burn Oxford to the ground, sow its land with salt so that nothing can grow there again, and rape all of the survivors.

6/30/2011 8:10:31 PM

Thecycle23
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Quote :
"I do not use them. AP represent."

6/30/2011 8:14:11 PM

d357r0y3r
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"Who gives a fuck about an Oxford comma?"

6/30/2011 8:34:26 PM

wolfpackgrrr
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I had hummus, baba ghannouj, and tzatziki for dinner tonight. TAKE THAT, OXFORD PR DEPARTMENT

6/30/2011 8:55:54 PM

lewisje
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"This makes no sense at all. I don't like it, no I do not. That comma plays an important role in correct interpretation."
The Oxford PR department actually does still allow its use in disambiguation; however, if the meaning would still be clear without the final serial comma, it shall be omitted in its press releases.

6/30/2011 9:44:46 PM

dmspack
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I've always used the Oxford Comma...never knew it was called that. I'll probably continue to use it, too.

6/30/2011 9:54:39 PM

Metricula
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NOOOOOOO

6/30/2011 10:08:10 PM

elduderino
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This is bullshit. I always use the Oxford comma.

6/30/2011 10:24:37 PM

theDuke866
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What kind of bottom-feeding degenerate doesn't employ the Oxford comma? Its omission seems awkward more often than not, and regardless, it plays an important role in disambiguation. There's a difference between elimination of superfluous text and compromising clarity by omitting something useful.

7/1/2011 12:55:31 AM

dbmcknight
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"i will never stop using the oxford comma."

7/1/2011 9:23:57 AM

Ernie
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People who can't follow capitalization rules crying about commas ITT

[Edited on July 1, 2011 at 9:33 AM. Reason : alliteration ITP]

7/1/2011 9:32:51 AM

kiljadn
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"i will never stop using the oxford comma."




also, I used to surreptitiously correct marketing copy from clients that had neglected to use oxford commas


if you don't use oxford commas in your marketing copy, my respect for your company drops dramatically. it says to me "we don't take selling our product seriously enough to use proper grammar, so why should you buy it?"

[Edited on July 1, 2011 at 9:49 AM. Reason : .]

7/1/2011 9:44:00 AM

darkone
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Fuck this. Serial commas for life!

7/1/2011 10:56:23 AM

qntmfred
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i did not realize this was such a contentious issue

i always thought non-oxford comma made sense, but somewhere along the line somebody told me that wasn't correct and you know me i just follow the rules so...

7/1/2011 10:58:31 AM

Thecycle23
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"if you don't use oxford commas in your marketing copy, my respect for your company drops dramatically. it says to me "we don't take selling our product seriously enough to use proper grammar, so why should you buy it?""


haha I feel exactly the opposite. I ALWAYS edited it out. Though, thankfully, I never came across it very much.

7/1/2011 11:18:40 AM

goalielax
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Goodnight Sweet, Gentle, and Loving Prince

7/1/2011 11:38:52 AM

kiljadn
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well the thing about marketing people is that they generally think they fucking know everything




seriously the most annoying fucking people on the planet



don't try and tell me about some grammar when:


1. you don't fucking know shit about shit

and don't try to tell me how to "fix" a design when:

2. See #1.

7/1/2011 11:41:20 AM

moonman
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Quote :
"I do not use them. AP represent."

7/1/2011 11:42:05 AM

quagmire02
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Quote :
"UPDATE: In response to the outrage, Oxford University reassured distraught grammar fans today that its comma drama had been greatly exaggerated. Maria Coyle of the university's press office stated that the edict to eschew the serial comma was only for press releases and internal communication, and furthermore "is not new, it's been online for several years already." The Oxford Dictionary's site has also added a new blog post Thursday, reasserting its tough, pro-comma stance. New Hart's Rules live. Long live Hart's Rules."

7/11/2011 8:11:52 AM

Time
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I was always taught to leave that comma out. Interesting. Now if I could get a certain co-worker to refrain from using commas haphazardly in the middle of nearly every sentence I would sleep better. God that baffles me.

7/11/2011 10:01:09 AM

rufus
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why would they stop using this comma? is there a comma shortage causing them to ration their punctuation marks? i would gladly donate an extra comma or two if they really need it so that i can have more clarity in sentences with listed items.

7/11/2011 11:05:00 AM

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