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"possibly the second worst division in college football "

you killed your argument right there.... just dumb. Even when they are down, if you put LSU, Auburn, and Bama in any division they are going to do some major damage.


and you cannot honestly believe that the Pac-10 is better than the SEC, thats a fucking joke

5/23/2006 2:28:05 PM

ha, if you think i'm anyway shape or form an SEC fan, you're either dumb as fuck, new to sports talk, or trolling to kill time (like i normally do)

[Edited on May 23, 2006 at 2:29 PM. Reason : or you were talking to jaybee]

5/23/2006 2:28:15 PM

fuck the sec

5/23/2006 2:30:50 PM

i didn't say the PAC-10 was better, i was asked to provide a point where the ACC was rated as an equal with the SEC, i provided it...

and in a given year Alabama, Auburn, or Arkansas can all be good teams, but in the last few years or so they haven't hit on it at the same time... it's always 2 good teams in the West and 4 crappy to mediocre ones (i exclude LSU, becuase they've been good the whole time, nothing but respect there)...

maybe that changes this year, last year certainly seemed like the West was going in the right direction, but to argue that it's been consistently strong for the last few years is to put on horse blinders...

Alabama
2000
3-8
2001
7-5
2002
10-3
2003
4-9
2004
6-6
2005
10-2

are you arguing that during 2000, 2003, and 2004 Alabama could waltz into any other conference and dominate?

[Edited on May 23, 2006 at 2:33 PM. Reason : .]

5/23/2006 2:30:52 PM

THE SEC IS THE BEST EVER

LOOK HOW MANY PLAYERS THEY PUT IN THE DRAFT THIS YEAR

5/23/2006 2:31:21 PM

technically i asked when they WERE equals

not when they were RATED as equals

i mean, i was really just stirring up shit
but i bet there are plenty of ranking systems
and i'm sure there are ones that will have the SEC over the ACC

5/23/2006 2:31:50 PM

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"possibly the second worst division in college football "

5/23/2006 2:32:14 PM

EASILY the worst division in the SEC

5/23/2006 2:32:41 PM

^^^^^Except that over the last 5 years or so, Auburn is just about the best team going besides USC.

[Edited on May 23, 2006 at 2:34 PM. Reason : gnbxf]

5/23/2006 2:33:41 PM

never said dominate

5/23/2006 2:35:02 PM

^^dont mention texas or lsu, who won national titles in the last 3 years

5/23/2006 2:37:13 PM

Hence "just about the best" and as far as LSU, Auburn has been better over the past 5 years.

5/23/2006 2:45:14 PM

watch out for Rico McCoy this year bitches... hes going to explode. Ray Lewis Jr.

5/23/2006 2:45:58 PM

http://hurricane.lsu.edu/_gbe/comppoll/compconf.htm
http://www.marsee.net/05cfp.txt (http://www.marsee.net/fb.html)
http://www.colleyrankings.com/curconf.html

eventually i'll remember to stop this... but every time i see a "SEC IS THE GREATEST EVER!" post it makes me cringe...

eventually people will stop living in the past, but hey, we're all supposed to be State fans, so i guess that's a bit much to expect of us...

5/23/2006 2:46:57 PM

those are just purely going by records. It doesnt take into account that the SEC basically beats up on itself every year. If you go by actual football knowledge and you know what you are talking about, there is no doubt that the SEC is the top football conference.

5/23/2006 2:52:39 PM

As much as I hate to say it, the only reason that those "ratings" are even close to accurate is UT dropped the ball and completely sucked ass last season. And that hasn't happened since 1988.

We will see how the conferences do this season.

5/23/2006 2:54:41 PM

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"Jaybee1200 All American 15018 Posts user info edit post those are just purely going by records. It doesnt take into account that the SEC basically beats up on itself every year. If you go by actual football knowledge and you know what you are talking about, there is no doubt that the SEC is the top football conference. "

bingo

5/23/2006 4:54:47 PM

let's see...
the biggest Tenn fan on the board, another Tenn fan, and a Bama fan are saying that in order to know anything about football you must believe taht the SEC is the best conference hands down...

i'd say there are lots of doubts about it, all it takes is actually looking at the conferences to start doubting it... and maybe a few less biases

5/23/2006 5:08:43 PM

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"and as far as LSU, Auburn has been better over the past 5 years."

how bout over the last 4 years? whats so magical about 2001?

LSU
2005 11-2
2004 9-3
2003 13-1 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
2002 8-5
TOTAL 41-11

AUBURN
2005 9-3
2004 13-0
2003 8-5
2002 9-4
TOTAL 39-12

5/23/2006 5:09:23 PM

^^ nooo, I totally admit that the ACC is the tops in bball. No bias there. Just looking at what teams produce the best product, and thats SEC football, hands down. Once again, you cant just look at record. If you put Tennessee in the Pac-10, they would have a much better record, if you put Florida in the Big-12, especially the north, they would have a much better record. Now, I do admit that the last few years it hasnt been AS good as it has in the recent past, its still the best football conference.

5/23/2006 5:14:46 PM

it wasnt the best football conference last year

so its not "still the best football conference"

you gotta earn that shit every year

you think every now and then the Big 10 doesnt emerge as the best conference FOR ONE SEASON?

GO ACC

5/23/2006 5:18:42 PM

I am saying overall, if someone asks, which conference is the best at football, it would be the SEC. Sure you can break it down as far as you want to go but thats just silly...

"at 1:25 PM there were three TDs scored against SEC schools by 3 Conf. USA schools, at this exact moment Conf. USA is better" blah blah blah

5/23/2006 5:21:07 PM

no and though i dont like the sec, i mostly hate them, i do think they are usually one of the top couple conferences in the land, and i dont have any problem with people saying they are the best

but i think you're only fooling yourself if you dont think there are some seasons here or there when the Big 12 or Big 10 or Pac 10 or even ACC are better...say when Oklahoma, Nebraska and Texas were all really good...or when Michigan, OSU, Penn State, Iowa are all really good...or USC, UCLA, Cal, Oregon, etc...or Miami, FSU, Clemson, VT, etc

5/23/2006 5:23:24 PM

I never said that there werent. In those conferences, especially the Big 12 you usually have one really great team (Nebraska, then it was Ok, now Texas), who just steam rolls through their conference, but the rest of the teams are good, but not great. Whereas in the SEC its sooo fucking hard to go undefeated in the conference and the conference champ. game, so you cant just look at the record.

Current Nebraska, UCLA, Oregon and Clemson would get killed in a full season in the SEC... the rest could hang though

[Edited on May 23, 2006 at 5:27 PM. Reason : d]

5/23/2006 5:26:23 PM

but lets get this shit back on topic....



8-4, some shitty bowl

5/23/2006 5:33:59 PM

^agreed

5/23/2006 7:19:43 PM

The good thing about wearing tennessee colors is that you can watch the game on the weekend and during the week you can pick up trash on the side of the road!

UT forever! Go Vandy!

can't you just smell the anger

[Edited on May 24, 2006 at 12:25 AM. Reason : evil]

5/24/2006 12:24:53 AM

Isn't Cal supposed to be really good, like Pac 10 Champs good?

5/24/2006 11:36:56 AM

wasn't tennessee supposed to be better than average last year?

like bowl game better than average?

5/24/2006 11:46:37 AM

WOW THE SEC IS SO GREAT...LOOK AT THERE CHAMPIONS FROM LAST YEAR


[Edited on May 24, 2006 at 12:01 PM. Reason : GOT STOMPED BY THE BIG LEAST!!]

5/24/2006 12:01:30 PM

HAHA GEORGIA GOT BEAT BY THOSE TOOTHLESS INBREDS COAL MINERS

5/24/2006 12:14:24 PM

GG IH8S

GO BIG EAST!

5/24/2006 12:43:05 PM

hahah, big east... if there were ever a big east / sec football challenge where every team in each conference played I wouldnt have a second thought on which conference to bet the house on.

5/24/2006 2:53:03 PM

i'm probably going to the UF game

5/24/2006 2:56:09 PM

even big east people would bet on the SEC

btw how did those toothless inbred coalminers beat the shit out of those pig fucking rednecks?

also the SEC sucks balls...any time your conference has 12 teams and 10 mascots, it shows your conference sucks balls

5/24/2006 2:57:19 PM

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"hahah, big east... if there were ever a big east / sec football challenge where every team in each conference played I wouldnt have a second thought on which conference to bet the house on."

IF THERE WAS A WVU / UT FOOTBALL CHALLENGE I WOULDN'T HAVE A SECOND THOUGHT ON WHO TO BET THE HOUSE ON EITHER

5/24/2006 3:08:57 PM

IF GEORGIA AND WEST VIRGINIA COMPETED ON WHO FUCKED THEIR SISTER THE MOST TIMES, I WOULDNT BET! IT WOULD BE TOO CLOSE TO CALL!!!

5/24/2006 3:11:04 PM

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"any time your conference has 12 teams and 10 mascots, it shows your conference sucks balls"

5/24/2006 3:17:34 PM

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"IF THERE WAS A WVU / UT FOOTBALL CHALLENGE I WOULDN'T HAVE A SECOND THOUGHT ON WHO TO BET THE HOUSE ON EITHER"

HAHAHAH, ok, 2005-2006 you are right... but typically, 95% of the time UT would fucking destroy WVU.

And I actually like WVU, was a big Major Harris fan growing up...

WVU / UT
All-Time Wins: 642/752
All-Time Winning Percentage: .591/.697
Years with 10 or more victories: 5/19
Bowl Game Appearances: 25/45
National Championships: 0/4
Drafted Players: 150/310
Conference Championships: 12/16

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"IF GEORGIA AND WEST VIRGINIA COMPETED ON WHO FUCKED THEIR SISTER THE MOST TIMES, I WOULDNT BET! IT WOULD BE TOO CLOSE TO CALL!!!"

oh, sorry Mr. North Carolina Metropolitan Man

[Edited on May 24, 2006 at 5:00 PM. Reason : d]

5/24/2006 4:54:52 PM

i was fucking with ihatespida cause he's from west by god virginia

actually one of the hottest women i've ever met is from west virginia

but i'd still wager theres more incest going on in the mountains of west virginia or the backwoods of georgia than goes on in Charlotte which, yes, is a metropolis

5/24/2006 5:07:14 PM

JAYBEE STOP LIVING IN THE PAST......YEAH TENNESSEE HAS MORE TRADITION....THEY HAVE MORE TRADITION THAN MOST FOOTBALL PROGRAMS BUT LAST YEARS WVU TEAM WOULD HAVE BEATEN TENNESSE AND THIS YEARS TEAM IS SUPPOSED TO BE EVEN BETTER...I'LL TAKE THE MOUNTAINEERS....TREETWISTA YOU STUPID FUCK...I'M FROM PENNSYLVANIA NOT WEST VIRGINIA...

5/24/2006 5:28:18 PM

YOU FUCKING PENNSYLVANIA INBRED AMISH FUCKER

5/24/2006 5:42:21 PM

^^ I'll give you that the best WV team in the last 20+ years could beat the worst UT team in 20+ years. You got me there.

^^^ but what if they are from Atlanta... which is about the same size as Charlotte.... there are hicks and white trash everywhere, nowhere is immune


[Edited on May 24, 2006 at 6:04 PM. Reason : ]

5/24/2006 6:00:55 PM

yeah i know...its funny too because i've been to athens for a couple weekends and ooh my goodness there are some beautiful girls down there...but i hate georgia sports so i had to bash them haha

5/24/2006 6:14:33 PM

Oh, I do to, trust me, I fucking HATE Georgia fans and their goddamn team. Athens is fucking fun as hell, but their fans are fucking assholes

5/24/2006 6:17:47 PM

a Tennessee fan that hates Georgia??? no way

5/24/2006 6:18:21 PM

true... most hate Bama and Florida more though... Georgia tops my list, easily.

5/24/2006 6:28:15 PM

bttt just to keep this somewhere near the top

5/27/2006 2:45:49 PM

ok... serious non-trouble stirring question time...

what is Tenn. looking forward to this year, i mean, what's the general look of the team, strengths, weaknesses...

just curious...

5/27/2006 3:18:36 PM

weaknesses look to be LB - lost a top guy due to some disciple issues

strengths look to be RB, CB, and hopefully QB (depending on what cutcliff can do with Ainge)

5/27/2006 5:33:53 PM