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6/8/2025 6:17:03 PM

States Rights!

6/8/2025 8:33:55 PM

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" THE OFFICE of KAMALA D. HARRIS Los Angeles is my home. And like so many Americans, I am appalled at what we are witnessing on the streets of our city. Deploying the National Guard is a dangerous escalation meant to provoke chaos. In addition to the recent ICE raids in Southern California and across our nation, it is part of the Trump Administration's cruel, calculated agenda to spread panic and division. This Administration's actions are not about public safety - they're about stoking fear. Fear of a community demanding dignity and due process. Protest is a powerful tool - essential in the fight for justice. And as the LAPD, Mayor, and Governor have noted, demonstrations in defense of our immigrant neighbors have been overwhelmingly peaceful. I continue to support the millions of Americans who are standing up to protect our most fundamental rights and freedoms. "

This was a good message.

6/8/2025 8:35:04 PM

Pressure builds diamonds maybe

Newsome saying the exact right things here

Ultimately democracy is about morality and ethics and laws should follow this

https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.social/post/3lr5eh37dzr25

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6/8/2025 10:47:01 PM

Makes me very angry seeing some of these protestors burning things. Some people just have a destructive nature. I can understand violence to an extent, but not just wanting to destroy things that have value, economic and/or sentimental.

I hate that Democrats are forced into having to defend these people as part of politics. I hope that once this is all over a competent administration gets rid of these people, cause there are illegal immigrants who are a problem

And actually, those problematic illegal aliens tend to cause the most harm to, guess who? Their own community, illegal or legal. Honest people trying to get by, work hard, are the ones who suffer from it by having their communities get destabilized or them getting personally extorted

But of course, the clowns in government go after the construction workers and students

They could've just taken a hard hand and gone full throttle after gangs, maybe some fringe Democrats would've said "oh you're violating their rights", but mainstream ones would've been forced to acquiesce. It would've been a win for them. But they're not good people.

[Edited on June 9, 2025 at 7:11 AM. Reason : correction]

6/9/2025 7:10:35 AM

https://www.facebook.com/GavinNewsom/posts/governor-newsoms-address-democracy-at-a-crossroads/1294399428711026/

6/10/2025 10:45:32 PM

That was pretty solid.

6/11/2025 7:51:03 AM

facebook

6/11/2025 2:07:05 PM

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"I hate that Democrats are forced into having to defend these people as part of politics."

They aren't and they don't. Democratic politicians are always very quick to denounce destruction/looting/violence/etc. Too quick, sometimes, given the larger issues at play.

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"I hope that once this is all over a competent administration gets rid of these people, cause there are illegal immigrants who are a problem"

Your post seems to assume that a large portion of undocumented immigrants are part of organized crime, or that a large part of criminal organizations are made up of undocumented immigrants. I don't think there's a ton of evidence to bear out either point of view. I mean, yeah, there are undocumented people who are "a problem" in the sense of being part of a gang or whatever, but you're gonna have to bring receipts to convince me that it's a substantially higher percentage than you'd find in otherwise comparable populations of legal residents or citizens.

The only real difference between two gang members, one undocumented and one here legally, is that you can deport one of them. But focusing on the deportation gets it backwards. The goal of combatting crime isn't the punishment, it's reducing or ending crime. The punishment is just a means to that end.

6/11/2025 4:25:59 PM

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"They aren't and they don't. Democratic politicians are always very quick to denounce destruction/looting/violence/etc. Too quick, sometimes, given the larger issues at play."

You misunderstood what I meant. Of course they denounce actual violence or looting. But the image still sticks, in the binary, that these guys on the 'Democrat' side. Also, 'defending' is not just directly defending someone, but even when you have bad people on your quote unquote side, you have to work around them. For example, how the GOP had to talk about 1/6 until it became okay with Trump being reelected to celebrate them. They couldn't outright condemn the people, some of them could condemn the violence, but they didn't directly address the issue cause it would alienate some of their voters, even more moderate ones. In this case, some Democrats can't go as hard on immigration as they might want to, because it would upset those who aren't strictly affected, cause of the narrative.

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"Your post seems to assume that a large portion of undocumented immigrants are part of organized crime, or that a large part of criminal organizations are made up of undocumented immigrants."

No, that had nothing to do with it

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"The only real difference between two gang members, one undocumented and one here legally, is that you can deport one of them. But focusing on the deportation gets it backwards. The goal of combatting crime isn't the punishment, it's reducing or ending crime. The punishment is just a means to that end."

Illegal or legal, I just hope there is more of a crackdown or something at some point, and that it's done by Democrats. Yes, I know that it's not that simple and people try their best within the system, but we need some more action.

6/12/2025 9:58:53 AM

https://www.newsweek.com/ron-desantis-says-floridians-have-right-hit-protesters-cars-2084418

Funny how democrats have to condemn every random thing lest they be divisive and petty

While republicans can call people beating cops heroes, and suggest running over protesters

6/12/2025 11:43:10 AM

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"For example, how the GOP had to talk about 1/6 until it became okay with Trump being reelected to celebrate them."

This has everything completely backwards. The GOP went to great lengths not to talk about 1/6, they threw out all the Republicans in Congress who did talk about it, and Trump got elected because a plurality of voters decided they could live with it.

Nothing Democrats can do will be good enough for Republicans or for any so-called "swing voter" who voted for Trump. There is no point in worrying about protestors being on one side or the other, because the enemy doesn't. The only reason to condemn violence and looting is to slow down the process of its normalization.

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"Illegal or legal, I just hope there is more of a crackdown or something at some point, and that it's done by Democrats. Yes, I know that it's not that simple and people try their best within the system, but we need some more action."

Well, no, we don't. We do not need a crackdown on immigration. There's no valid reason at all to do so. If it's legal, great. If it's illegal, we should probably make it legal, and if we can't do that much, we should at least reform the shit out of how we enforce immigration law.

6/12/2025 7:47:19 PM

Feels like you just choose to focus on one sentence or the other and pick it apart rather than address the point. And also that you assume what the person is trying to imply or what narrative they have in their head and just reply on that basis

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"We do not need a crackdown on immigration."

When did I say we need a crackdown on immigration in general. The comment was pretty obviously in regards to gangs lol

6/13/2025 4:42:33 AM

the NOKINGS organization so far regarding this saturday is impressive

any of you involved? any interesting stories regarding threats etc the social media pages have received?

6/13/2025 7:38:37 AM

What do you mean by involved? Planning to attend, or active in organization?

6/13/2025 7:57:37 AM

i mean i kinda assumed you were all attending lol. i wanted to compliment what ive seen so far.

6/13/2025 8:12:21 AM

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"The comment was pretty obviously in regards to gangs lol"

Then why did it start with "Illegal or legal?" What are the legal gangs? The Rotary Club? And what about "people try their best within the system?" That's a line that definitely seems like it pertains to immigration.

Like, maybe you were talking about gangs, but it was not obvious.

6/13/2025 8:36:24 AM

Rotary Club is Straight Outta Compton

6/13/2025 11:29:18 PM

Did yall have kwanis(sp?) club or heard of it in elementary school? They gave out terrific kid stickers. Always seemed kinda strange to me

6/13/2025 11:32:23 PM

Kiwanis were groomers! Pass it on!

6/14/2025 7:14:22 AM