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"Think about demolition man movie where they got tickets for cursing...thats where I feel you want to take it."

it's where who wants to take it? i figured you're talking about someone else in the thread, because you're not going to be able to quote ME saying i think they should create a set of bully laws

[Edited on May 23, 2012 at 3:43 PM. Reason : page 4!]

5/23/2012 3:42:55 PM

I should be clear that my earlier comments about the bullying laws were in response to 1337 b4k4, not the actual case originally presented in this thread. I thought that was clear, but somebody missed it.

I'm not sure how I feel about anti-bullying laws. I wish they weren't necessary, and I'm not sure they are necessary. I dunno--I thought school systems would already have taken the steps to handle bad bullying situations when they arise.

Regardless, it's not about banning kids from calling other kids fat or whatever...nobody thinks we're gonna stop that. It's about making sure a kid who gets beat up or verbally harassed every day without provocation is recognized fairly. The offending student(s) can be moved to different classes, banned from the bus, or even moved to a different school if necessary. Or the victim can opt to move to a different school or finish the school year from home.

The point is that we don't want administrators dismissing it, not providing options, telling kids to "suck it up," etc... It's already been noted that kids bully each other all the time without having serious problems...so if a kid is distressed enough (or even thin-skinned enough) that he or she goes to an adult, then we should take steps to address their needs, even if they "start it" by being a boy in lipstick and eye liner.

5/23/2012 7:34:24 PM

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"hat article seems to exonerate Ravi almost entirely to me, which makes me think it's leaving a lot out."

It seemed extremely in-depth to me. But please share if you find any damning information they left out (especially if it appears to be intentional). They seemed to include a lot of the IM transcripts for better or worse. They sought out commentary from a leader of their school who is also a member in their gay community. What do you think they may have intentionally left out?

What do you feel the article exonerates him of exactly? He was accused of a variety of things, some of which he was certainly guilty of. And I don't think the article suggests he didn't do anything wrong. I believe they're just saying this is a complex issue and from really looking into the details, it seems more the behavior of a stupid, arrogant kid than someone who is truly prejudice and committing hate crimes (which are the people some of these crimes were put on the books to fight).

5/23/2012 8:10:32 PM

"Bullied Gay Teen Hangs Himself in Oregon Schoolyard"
http://www.towleroad.com/2013/01/jadinbell.html

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"Dozens of people came together last week in La Grande in a vigil for Jadin, trying to understand what drove him to despair nine days ago. He came to the playground of Central Elementary School in La Grande. He climbed on a play structure and hanged himself."

1/29/2013 10:57:26 PM