TKEshultz All American 7327 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "when bush first ran for president, democrats scrutinized him for a DUI in college, possible cocain use in college, and said his downfall was too much partying in college.
obama, who admits to doing the same thing gets away with any media coverage whatsoever ... not everyone read this guys book, why did the media do it for bush and not obama" |
[Edited on November 15, 2008 at 3:35 PM. Reason : ]11/15/2008 3:35:06 PM |
carzak All American 1657 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "when bush first ran for president, democrats scrutinized him for a DUI in college, possible cocain use in college, and said his downfall was too much partying in college.
obama, who admits to doing the same thing" |
Um, no. Obama does not have a DUI, did not fry his brain from coke and alcohol, and did not have the reputation of being a partier.
So, not the same thing.11/15/2008 3:35:22 PM |
TKEshultz All American 7327 Posts user info edit post |
he did coke, he "fried his brain from coke"
stop talking 11/15/2008 3:36:05 PM |
moron All American 34036 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " the media talking about something is not "scrutinizing" it. The media talked about Obama's past when he first started running too.
" |
11/15/2008 3:36:54 PM |
TKEshultz All American 7327 Posts user info edit post |
you didnt read obama's bio obviously .. he did coke, frequently
[Edited on November 15, 2008 at 3:39 PM. Reason : crack, im sorry]
[Edited on November 15, 2008 at 3:41 PM. Reason : you certainly dont hear this on msnbc] 11/15/2008 3:38:03 PM |
TKEshultz All American 7327 Posts user info edit post |
[/thread] 11/15/2008 3:41:41 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
seriously, man. i'm with you.
why isn't the liberal media continuously reporting on this, everyday. i need updates. there is certainly nothing more important going on in the world than obama's admitted drug use several decades ago.
[Edited on November 15, 2008 at 3:58 PM. Reason : .] 11/15/2008 3:57:42 PM |
carzak All American 1657 Posts user info edit post |
Obama has been honest about his past in that area. Bush was evasive, which drew more scrutiny.
Plus, Bush had a reputation with alcohol and partying, which was the bigger issue because it was responsible for his shitty college performance, not so much his coke use. Obama did not have these issues.
So your contention that Obama admitted to doing the same thing or has done the same thing as Bush is wrong. And the media didn't give the same scrutiny with Obama in this area because he was not as evasive about it.
And, I think Bush's mini-stroke moments led to more curiosity about his past because people wondered whether it would affect his capacity to be president. Obama's cognitive ability has never been a negative.
[Edited on November 15, 2008 at 4:12 PM. Reason : .] 11/15/2008 4:11:47 PM |
TKEshultz All American 7327 Posts user info edit post |
are you kidding me
it would be headline news if bush had admitted to it, which he hasnt, unless youve seen him do it then no evidence .. barack has admitted to it .. congrats, his morals are just as bad
you still havnt answered why its big news when liberal journalists reports it, with little or no proof, and kept obama clean, like i said, hes been free of any media scutiny
[Edited on November 15, 2008 at 4:19 PM. Reason : ] 11/15/2008 4:19:04 PM |
carzak All American 1657 Posts user info edit post |
You fail at making any kind of intelligent reply, so I have nothing more to say. 11/15/2008 4:24:24 PM |
TKEshultz All American 7327 Posts user info edit post |
k ... amuse me, answer the claim
[Edited on November 15, 2008 at 4:42 PM. Reason : being forthcomming does not condone the use] 11/15/2008 4:40:57 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4953 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ How does admitting to prior drug use make one's morals bad? 11/15/2008 11:07:14 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
-- Barack Obama experimented with drugs in high school.
-- George W. Bush "experimented" with drugs as a pilot in the Texas Air National Guard, and as a 30-year-old republican campaign worker.
clearly, George W. is the superior moral person. because he found Jesus and that's what stopped his boozing, coke snorting ways. 11/16/2008 1:23:07 AM |
bigun20 All American 2847 Posts user info edit post |
^You are entirely missing the point (and promoting anit-Bush propaganda while defending Obama for doing the exact same thing).
They both delved into illegal practices. Both men! Both were wrong.
Now lets take the first step towards removing your political blinders.........
Say it with me......Bush and Obama were wrong. One more time....Bush and Obama were wrong.....Bush was wrong.....Obama was wrong..... 11/17/2008 10:22:15 AM |
IRSeriousCat All American 6092 Posts user info edit post |
I actually don't believe that either one of them was wrong for drug use if it didn't interfere with their normal daily lives and they managed to continue being productive.
that being said, it appears if this stipulation doesn't apply to bush as he readily admits that his use adversely affected him and did so during a stage in his life when his judgment has more weight, namely being a parent.
the times in their life where they partook in these similar actions are hugely different. doing drugs in college when you have little responsibility and when the ones you do have solely affect you is tremendously different than doing so when you're a father to two and have a wife. 11/17/2008 12:25:06 PM |
bigun20 All American 2847 Posts user info edit post |
First off, A crime is a crime. Illegal is illegal. Both men lacked judgement and both are PERSONAL RESPONSIBLE for their actions.
If you want to argue for a change in federal and state law for drug legalization thats fine, but thats not what were discussing here. They were both wrong! I want to see if you guys can just admit that Obama was wrong for once in your lives.
Quote : | "college when you have little responsibility" |
So are you saying that college kids are not yet responsible adults since they have little impact on the lives of others? If so, could this possibly be an explanation as to why college kids are predominately Democrats?11/17/2008 12:53:11 PM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
I hold you PERSONAL RESPONSIBLE for such crap posts 11/17/2008 12:55:51 PM |
IRSeriousCat All American 6092 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I actually don't believe that either one of them was wrong for drug use " |
did you miss the part where i said that I didn't believe either one of them was wrong? how could i decree obama as wrong when i don't find anything wrong with the action itself.
they both did something illegal, yes. i'll say it again, they both committed minor misdemeanors, yes. what you're failing to admit here is that the act of committing a crime doesn't always stand to make it an equal offense as other committed offenses of the same crime. they're called mitigating circumstances and i'm sure you're aware of them. That is why people who drink and drive with a person under 16 in the car is punished more harshly than someone who receives a DUI when only themselves are in the car. laconically put, there are varying degrees of wrong.
for me, despite being illegal, i don't see the simple act of drug use as immoral or 'wrong' but there are circumstances and actions that, for me, can push the use into the barrier of being immoral or wrong. perhaps for you the sheer act itself is wrong and therefore obama did something wrong and bush exists in an area that consists of a more severe degree of wrong, but since i don't find the act itself to be wrong i can reasonably state that obama may not have been in the wrong through his use while bush reasonably was.
Quote : | "So are you saying that college kids are not yet responsible adults since they have little impact on the lives of others? If so, could this possibly be an explanation as to why college kids are predominately Democrats?" |
way to entirely slant my statement. that isn't even what i implied. i acknowledged that college kids have less responsibility than they would later on in life. Can you deny this? I also said that the responsibility most directly affects them as opposed to the responsibilities of a father of a single income home that has the burden of a wife and two kids. can you deny this? There was nothing said about not being responsible or capable adults. my comment only concerned the detriment that could be realized if requirements of those responsibilities were not met.11/17/2008 1:09:28 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
IR Serious Cat
This R Serious Post
Hey hooksaw, what do you think of MSNBC?
[Edited on November 18, 2008 at 4:45 PM. Reason : .] 11/18/2008 4:44:49 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081217/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama;_ylt=AnX3o5SRE18V5pZB9bw1FCGyFz4D
Quote : | "Defense Secretary Robert Gates, whom Obama asked to remain in office, is the other Republican tapped so far for the incoming Cabinet." |
from what i was told gates was like unaffiliated...thats the liberal media trying to portray obama as a centrist12/17/2008 6:26:53 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Hearst Looks to Sell or Close Seattle Paper
Quote : | "The Seattle Post-Intelligencer will stop printing in 60 days unless the newspaper's owner, the Hearst Corporation, can find a buyer by then, the company said on Friday.
Hearst said that if it could not find a buyer, it would either shut the paper entirely or make it an Internet-only operation with a much-reduced staff." |
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/10/business/media/10paper.html
Cash Crunch At New York Times (NYT): $400 Million Due In May
http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/11/cash-crunch-at-new-york-times-nyt-400-million-due-in-may1/14/2009 12:43:05 AM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "From above, even the seagulls must have been awed by the blanket of humanity." |
--Bill Weir, ABC News
http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/checker.aspx?v=yduzpruzSU
Chris Matthews' Inaugural Jib-Jabbery The MSNBC motormouth talks a lot, says nothing.
Quote : | "MSNBC is the 'it' network for the Obama masses? That's news to me. Olbermann approached his colleague like a teetotaler trying to talk down a drunk, offering the opinion that people might be smiling about the shared experience of the Obama inauguration. But Matthews wasn't having it.
Matthews: No, this is the network of the 21st century, MSNBC. And I think we're open to it. And that's why this crowd knows us. And I think—
Olbermann: He's Chris Matthews, and he approved that message.
Matthews: We're not crotchety about change, stuffy." |
http://www.slate.com/id/2209405/pagenum/2
[Edited on January 22, 2009 at 3:20 PM. Reason : LOL!]1/22/2009 3:19:41 PM |
moron All American 34036 Posts user info edit post |
I didn't realize this thread was hooksaw's personal blog.
I recommend visiting this site: https://www.godaddy.com/ 1/22/2009 3:24:04 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
1/22/2009 4:34:01 PM |
Cariad Starting Lineup 96 Posts user info edit post |
When journalist Donna Brazile was asked about stealing Obama's presidental blanket from the White House, she responds: “We have a black President. [holds up blanket] This is free.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpkm0xdfghA 1/22/2009 5:35:47 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
bush's cocaine thing was more about him being a horrible student.
i dont even remember this being a big deal on the news. 1/22/2009 5:44:51 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52765 Posts user info edit post |
bump by request 6/9/2009 6:45:59 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "In a way, Obama is standing above the country--above the world. He's sort of god." |
--Evan Thomas, assistant managing editor at Newsweek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbvXH05dot0
Just wow.6/9/2009 6:51:30 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43400 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah its hard to get credible news about our government these days. Most of the media outlets are too busy dealing with carpet burn on their knees. 6/10/2009 8:43:57 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
lol 6/10/2009 9:22:46 AM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "its hard to get credible news about our government these days." |
Are you kidding?6/10/2009 9:23:29 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72823 Posts user info edit post |
LONDON SHOCK FASHION: MICHELLE AND THE ORANGE SNAKE
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1191620/First-Lady-flamboyance-Michelle-Obamas-confident-duty-chic-London-city-break.html
6/10/2009 10:03:19 AM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
The terrible shooting at the U.S. Holocaust Museum was the lead story on ABC's World News with Charles Gibson June 10, 2009--as it should have been. Yet, I do not recall any coverage by World News of the equally terrible shooting of a young U.S. soldier by a Muslim extremist on June 1, 2009. Why the difference, I wonder? 6/11/2009 2:30:29 AM |
not dnl Suspended 13193 Posts user info edit post |
because muslim extremists typically try to kill soldiers while 88 year old ppl dont typically shoot up security guards at museums? 6/11/2009 2:35:57 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72823 Posts user info edit post |
88 YEAR OLD NEO NAZIS WOOOOOOOOO 6/11/2009 8:49:58 AM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "because muslim extremists typically try to kill soldiers while 88 year old ppl dont typically shoot up security guards at museums?" |
Holy shit, there is a brain in there somewhere.6/11/2009 9:26:51 AM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
I have to admit, Im pretty impressed how most of the media is going after Letterman.
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/747/story/774789.html 6/11/2009 11:19:02 AM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
The Today Show is "the media"? 6/11/2009 12:50:33 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
Its from NBC the officially sanctioned network.. still impressive. Most of the others have commented against his comments too. 6/11/2009 1:38:36 PM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
So is Regis and Kelly also "the media"? As well? I'm just wondering how low on the vapidity line we have to go before it's no longer considered "the media"? 6/11/2009 2:59:54 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^x5 Are you serious? You consider that a valid response?
^^^ Um. . .The Today Show is part of NBC News. Fail Boat really is a good username for you. 6/11/2009 5:08:24 PM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
Ok, if you include The Today Show in with your MSM criteria then you absolutely have no reason to be critical of the MSM. I'm sorry your standards are so low. 6/11/2009 5:50:15 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^ It's not my standard. The Today Show is part of NBC News, period. 6/11/2009 6:12:37 PM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
It absolutely is your standard. If you give two shits what The Today Show has to say about the state of the union, you've failed. Hard. 6/11/2009 6:42:58 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It's not my standard. The Today Show is part of NBC News, period." |
This is a fact. Sorry, but you're wrong again.6/11/2009 8:36:26 PM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not even debating that fact, so how the hell am I wrong you old fucking douche? You've owned yourself because you think The Today Show is a serious MSM outlet. There is no amount of posting over and over again that they do in fact deliver news that can save you from this. Now go get paranoid and disappear from the wolf web again. 6/11/2009 8:50:43 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^
Quote : | ". . .[T]hey do in fact deliver news. . . ." |
Now you have it.6/11/2009 8:53:38 PM |
Fail Boat Suspended 3567 Posts user info edit post |
Daltowned. 6/11/2009 9:21:50 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
yes, lots of shows "deliver the news", but that doesn't mean they are "news shows" O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Hannity? According to your other thread, O'Reilly viewers are as well informed on current events as NPR listeners, but does that mean he is news? Sure, he delivers news, but with a healthy dose of commentary and snark.
The Today Show? Regis and Kelly? The Early Show? Entertainment shows, which, yes, have some news content. What else do you expect them to talk about for 4 hours? 6/11/2009 9:58:09 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "NBC News pioneered the morning news program when it launched 'Today' over 56 years ago, with Dave Garroway as host. The four-hour live broadcast provides the latest in domestic and international news, weather reports and interviews with newsmakers from the worlds of politics, business, media, entertainment and sports." |
Quote : | "Since the program's premiere broadcast on January 14, 1952, 'Today's' hallmark has been its ability to revise an entire edition to bring viewers breaking news as it happens. In that fashion, 'Today' delivered immediate coverage of such events as Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath, the Tsunami that wreaked havoc in a dozen Asian nations, the September 11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center, the death of John F. Kennedy, Jr., the tragic high school shootings in Littleton, Colorado, the crash of TWA Flight 800, the death of Princess Diana, and the Oklahoma City bombing and trials. Matt Lauer and Meredith Vieira are co-anchors of 'Today.' Ann Curry is the news anchor." |
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/3079108/6/11/2009 10:36:35 PM |