another page of this goofball

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4/7/2006 10:33:04 AM

Oh, so you want to try to smear me as a "Nazi" now?

Never could have seen that coming!

Yeah, how dare I talk about the enormous Zionist power and influence over our government and mainstream media. How dare I talk about Mossad involvement in carrying out the 9/11 attacks. How dare I discuss the fact that a Zionist neo-conservative cabal has been the driving force pushing for these wars in the middle east and central asia. How dare I point out that it is a Zionist Cabal who orchestrated the 9/11 attacks, and has covered up the truth and framed muslims through their control over the mainstream media.

I must be some kind of "anti-Semite" for simply telling the truth!

Look. Your smear tactics aren't going to work. People aren't going to stop looking at this issue and trying to find out what really happened because you and others are calling those questioning the official story names. The time when such tactics worked is passing. Too many people are starting to see the evidence. You can only try to smear us, silence us, and try to use emotional arguments to keep people from looking at the evidence.

You are losing, and you will lose. You can't stop the truth. You can only hope to distract from it, suppress it, and try to keep people from finding it.



[Edited on April 7, 2006 at 2:50 PM. Reason : ``]

4/7/2006 2:45:25 PM

how many cards do you think that game has?

4/7/2006 2:47:25 PM

have no idea

4/7/2006 2:47:54 PM

here he goes again on his own
going down the only road he's ever known
like a dumbass he was born to rant alone
but he's made up his mind
he ain't wasting no more time

4/7/2006 2:54:00 PM

so basically you find something that fits your argument

and then ignore any other variables

such as "FUCKING COINCEDENCE"

4/7/2006 2:59:54 PM

hey salisburyboy if you need someone to turn you into a martyr to help your cause just let me know

4/7/2006 3:02:14 PM

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"and then ignore any other variables such as "FUCKING COINCEDENCE""

Didn't you hear? The entire 9/11 story is full of "coincidences."

It's just a "coincidence" that the government was running drills of jets crashing into government buildings on the morning of 9/11. It's just a "coincidence" that NORAD and the U.S. Air Force stood down on 9/11 and did not act according to standard procedure to intercept the hijacked aircraft. It's just a "coincidence" that the U.S. Government was planning to invade Afghanistan prior to 9/11. It's just a "coincidence" that PNAC said "a new Pearl Harbor" was needed to accelerate their agenda in September 2000, and then the 9/11 attacks occured a year later. It's just a "coincidence" that the neo-cons and Zionists wanted to go to war in the Middle East and central Asia well before 9/11, and the 9/11 "conveniently" happened, and now we are involved in all these wars in the Middle East.

It's just a "coincidence" that the U.S. Government and mainstream media used phony bin Laden tapes to "prove" bin Laden carried out the attacks. It's just "coincidence" that many of the supposed "hijackers" turned up alive after 9/11. It's just a "coincidence" that WTC Building 7 collapsed in a controlled demolition. It's just coincidence that 5 Mossad agents were arrested after 9/11 filming the WTC attack and celebrating. It's just a "coincidence" that the government stonewalled and resisted an independent investigation into 9/11, and is covering up a lot of the evidence. And it's just a big "coincidence" that the government and mainstream media is lying about all these issues and suppressing and covering up the truth.

IT'S ALL ONE HUGE "COINCIDENCE"! REALLY!

4/7/2006 3:33:52 PM

yeah i dont think made up stuff can be a coincidence either

4/7/2006 3:35:37 PM

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"yeah i dont think made up stuff can be a coincidence either"

Every single thing I mentioned above is documented by "mainstream" news sources (or, in the case of the PNAC document, by their own publications). And, as one who has read this thread, you know that's true. If you wish to challenge me specifically on any one of those issues, I will provide the evidence.

4/7/2006 3:41:29 PM

Nothing has been debated in this thread except one liners and flooding by those who oppose Salisbury's beliefs....

If you have a grudge against Salisbury, fine, but why not debate in a mature fashion?

4/7/2006 3:44:43 PM

well i stopped reading after the first thing, so prove that

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"but why not debate in a mature fashion?"

cuz its already been done you fucking alias

[Edited on April 7, 2006 at 3:45 PM. Reason : .]

4/7/2006 3:45:21 PM

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"well i stopped reading after the first thing, so prove that"

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002-08-22-sept-11-plane-drill-_x.htm

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"Federal agency planned plane-crashing-into-building drill ... last Sept. 11 Associated Press August 22, 2002 WASHINGTON (AP) — In what the government describes as a bizarre coincidence, one U.S. intelligence agency was planning an exercise last Sept. 11 in which an errant aircraft would crash into one of its buildings. But the cause wasn't terrorism — it was to be a simulated accident."

They even said it was "a bizarre coincidence"! Who would have thunk it?

4/7/2006 3:51:31 PM

JGuth:

Don't make yourself the subject of your own fellation. OK putrid pouf! Why don't you follow your families advice, and check upon what happens to people who have symptons of an imperforate anus? Double check if your insurance covers such anomalies when visiting your doctor.

[Edited on April 7, 2006 at 3:53 PM. Reason : because I had to straighten gays!]

4/7/2006 3:53:19 PM

ok i thought you meant drills of flying planes into the building

but... i'll still go ahead and explain this to you

-the drill was for a small plane that had a mechanical failure
-the buildings they were dealing with were right near dulles
-the need for drills should be obvious because of the above two reasons
-the National Reconnaissance Office looks at pictures, they dont plan zionist plots


now i know this was pointless because you will just claim that i am brainwashed and smearing you ("they told me you would say that") but whatever. i guess you will go back to copying and pasting now

4/7/2006 3:56:51 PM

what the fuck are you talking about n00b

and salisburyboy

you do all this investigation

how many cards are in that game?

4/7/2006 3:57:52 PM

^its a gay joke

[Edited on April 7, 2006 at 3:59 PM. Reason : .]

4/7/2006 3:58:56 PM

No, its a lame joke

4/7/2006 4:07:20 PM

Bizarre Coincidence = Massive Zionist Conspiracy

It's a 100% proven fact.

Every time.

4/7/2006 4:07:40 PM

stop smearing him ok

4/7/2006 4:08:45 PM

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"the drill was for a small plane that had a mechanical failure"

That was just one example of the drills on the morning of 9/11 These drills were used as cover to allow the real attacks to occur:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2004/080904wargamescover.htm

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"Wargames Were Cover For the Operational Execution of 9/11 Alex Jones & Paul Joseph Watson September 20 2004 For almost three years since 9/11 independent researchers have stockpiled individual smoking guns which prove that the official version of events was not only a lie but operationally impossible. However, no single smoking gun has yet been forwarded to explain why air defenses categorically reversed Standard Operating Procedure and failed to respond to hijacked jetliners. Until now. More and more individuals are looking at the facts and highlighting exercise drills that took place on the morning of 9/11. It is clear that at least five if not six training exercises were in operation in the days leading up to and on the morning of 9/11. This meant that NORAD radar screens showed as many as 22 hijacked airliners at the same time. NORAD had been briefed that this was part of the exercise drill and therefore normal reactive procedure was forestalled and delayed. The large numbers of 'blips' on NORAD screens that displayed both real and 'drill' hijacked planes explain why confused press reports emerged hours after the attack stating that up to eight planes had been hijacked. The drill scenario also explains a comment made by air traffic control personnel which was featured in a July 2004 BBC television report. The controller is told that a hijacked airliner is heading for New York and responds by saying, "is this real world or an exercise?""

4/7/2006 4:11:06 PM

were still talking about the plane drills, or are you ready to concede that your point about that was stupid and move on

also, dont use prisonplanet if you are trying to convince anyone.

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4/7/2006 4:12:20 PM

its not even worth responding to

4/7/2006 4:14:44 PM

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"were still talking about the plane drills, or are you ready to concede that your point about that was stupid and move on"

You wish I was conceding something. I'm not conceding anything, and I'm still making my point.

It seems that you wish we could move on to something else.

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"also, dont use prisonplanet if you are trying to convince anyone"

prisonplanet uses "mainstream" sources to back up virtually everything they claim. For instance, the article above refers to this article from The Register (U.K.) when talking about the initial reports that 8 planes had been hijacked:

http://web.archive.org/web/20010923172009/http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/21606.html

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"By Kieren McCarthy 11/09/2001 A fifth plane is reported to be heading towards Washington DC, according to Sky News. American Airlines has confirmed that it has lost two planes with a total of 156 people on board, one from Boston and one from Washington DC. Up to eight airplanes are said to have been hijacked, US air authorities say that three planes are unaccounted for."

Why would they think that up to 8 planes were hijacked? Hmmmm. The drills?

Are you ready to concede your point and move on JonHGuth?

4/7/2006 4:24:37 PM

see... you just dont get it
the problem with prisonplanet isnt the part that is uses msm sources for, its the conclusions that they make based on those stories that you then try to associate to the msm source for credibility

in this case that wacky conclusion is that wargames were used as cover, you cant associate those claims to the msm

you just dont get it

4/7/2006 4:28:39 PM

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"It's a 100% proven fact."

he'a always 100% right

2% of the time

4/7/2006 4:31:26 PM

CONCLUSIVE PROOF THE U.S. WAS PLANNING TO INVADE AFGHANISTAN PRIOR TO 9/11

A battle plan for Afghanistan was being reviewed by the US Command 4 MONTHS before the 9/11 attacks:

Sydney Morning Herald: "Defence redefined means securing cheap energy"
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/12/25/1040511092926.html

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""As far back as 1975, Henry Kissinger, then secretary of state, said America was prepared to wage war over oil. Separate plans advocating US conquest of Saudi oilfields were published in the '70s. So it should come as little surprise that in May last year - four months before the terrorist attacks on Washington and New York - a battle plan for Afghanistan was already being reviewed by the US Command that would carry it out after September 11. Military strategists were highlighting the energy wealth of the Caspian Sea and Central Asia and its importance to America's "security"."

More confirmation U.S. Government was planning to invade Afghanistan before 9/11:

BBC-"US 'planned attack on Taleban'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1550366.stm

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"A former Pakistani diplomat has told the BBC that the US was planning military action against Osama Bin Laden and the Taleban even before last week's attacks."

JUST ANOTHER "BIZARRE COINCIDENCE"! NOTHING TO SEE HERE!

4/7/2006 4:32:57 PM

I looked at the hedges outside my window this afternoon. I thought I saw six points of light filter through the leaves, and when I drew a few lines connecting them in my head, whaddayaknow...it was the Star of David. Then I realized, it was a bush! OMF BUSH! BUSH IS A PAWN OF THE JEWS!1

4/7/2006 4:33:58 PM

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"BUSH IS A PAWN OF THE JEWS!1"

The entire federal government is controlled by this Zionist Cabal. Don't believe me? Will you believe 2 of America's most renowned and prominent scholars?

http://www.upi.com/InternationalIntelligence/view.php?StoryID=20060320-124726-1902r

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"Pro-Israel lobby in U.S. under attack WASHINGTON, March 20 (UPI) -- Two of America's top scholars have published a searing attack on the role and power of Washington's pro-Israel lobby in a British journal, warning that its "decisive" role in fomenting the Iraq war is now being repeated with the threat of action against Iran. And they say that the Lobby is so strong that they doubt their article would be accepted in any U.S.-based publication. Professor John Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago, author of "The Tragedy of Great Power Politics" and Professor Stephen Walt of Harvard's Kenney School, and author of "Taming American Power: The Global Response to U.S. Primacy," are leading figures American in academic life. They claim that the Israel lobby has distorted American policy and operates against American interests, that it has organized the funneling of more than $140 billion dollars to Israel and "has a stranglehold" on the U.S. Congress, and its ability to raise large campaign funds gives its vast influence over Republican and Democratic administrations, while its role in Washington think tanks on the Middle East dominates the policy debate. [...] The article focuses strongly on the role of the "neo-conservatives" within the Bush administration in driving the decision to launch the war on Iraq. "The main driving force behind the war was a small band of neo-conservatives, many with ties to the Likud," Mearsheimer and Walt argue." Given the neo-conservatives' devotion to Israel, their obsession with Iraq, and their influence in the Bush administration, it isn't surprising that many Americans suspected that the war was designed to further Israeli interests.""

4/7/2006 4:38:36 PM

so i see ur resorting to reposting the same information over and over. seems a bit desperate to me.

4/7/2006 4:40:51 PM

OH MY GOSH

THIS FUCKING GUY

4/7/2006 4:42:53 PM

oh jesus christ

i thought we had a breakthough

there was a hint of real debate

but as soon as i make a point that he knows he cant argue with

he starts this shit again

this, people, is why his threads are a joke

4/7/2006 4:47:24 PM

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"so i see ur resorting to reposting the same information over and over. seems a bit desperate to me."

There's nothing wrong with referencing the same information again. Some people need to be reminded of this info.

What's desperate here is those attempting to support the "official" government's version of 9/11, and the way they are trying to distract from the evidence being presented, engage in childish name-calling and other smear tactics, and ignore the evidence presented.

Can you refute or provide a rational response to the Mearsheimer and Walt paper? Are they wrong about the power of a Zionist Cabal over our government?

4/7/2006 4:48:57 PM

he won't even answer me how many cards he thinks are in the INWO game

4/7/2006 4:49:06 PM

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"see... you just dont get it the problem with prisonplanet isnt the part that is uses msm sources for, its the conclusions that they make based on those stories that you then try to associate to the msm source for credibility in this case that wacky conclusion is that wargames were used as cover, you cant associate those claims to the msm you just dont get it"

i want to see more evidence of this wargames cover

4/7/2006 4:50:19 PM

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"but as soon as i make a point that he knows he cant argue with"

What point? Oh, right, you're blanket claim that prisonplanet's conclusions from the MSM sources are "wacky":

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"in this case that wacky conclusion is that wargames were used as cover"

Well, I disagree. The concusions are not "wacky." They are very logical and well thought out. There were many drills on the morning of 9/11, which confused Air Traffic and NORAD people and served as the operational cover to allow the attacks to occur.

Is your claim that it is "wacky" supposed to be some kind of hardcore analysis and refutation of this evidence? The reason I didn't respond to your post is because it is a juvenile rant devoid of any real logic, analysis, or evidence.

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"he won't even answer me how many cards he thinks are in the INWO game"

I've already responded to your questions on how many cards there are TWICE. And you want to suggest I'm ignoring you? As I already told you, I have no idea how many cards are in the game.


[Edited on April 7, 2006 at 4:56 PM. Reason : ``]

4/7/2006 4:55:58 PM

then please provide me with real evidence that drills and wargames were used as cover

4/7/2006 4:56:44 PM

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"then please provide me with real evidence that drills and wargames were used as cover"

Oh, so you're going back to the DENIAL tactic again?

Read the articles I already provided if you are truly interested in the evidence. I doubt you will read them though. You're primarily interested in trolling and spamming this thread.

4/7/2006 4:58:25 PM

so HOW MANY CARDS DO YOU THINK ARE IN THE GAME

oh shit, you can't think any more can you

shits just permeated in your brain that you have to have someone spoonfeed shit to you

4/7/2006 4:58:36 PM

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"Oh, so you're going back to the DENIAL tactic again? Read the articles I already provided if you are truly interested in the evidence. I doubt you will read them though. You're primarily interested in trolling and spamming this thread."

no, god damnit, im genuinely curious to read a real article

the only article i saw was from prison planet (which i read, but it was just prisonplanet speculation)
then you posted some stuff about afghanistan that were unrelated


so stop claiming that i am using the denial tactic and please show me a real fucking link

4/7/2006 5:00:32 PM

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"HOW MANY CARDS DO YOU THINK ARE IN THE GAME"

I don't have any idea, but if I had to make just a pure guess...maybe around 50-100.

4/7/2006 5:01:12 PM

i looked it up for you

there are over 600 cards in the game INWO

thats a 1-in-600 chance that someone who is a nutjob and is trying to think of different shit to put on a card game would come true

if i wrote down 600 things i thought could happen in the next 6 years (the cards were released in 1995)

and i would bet you $texas that one of them would come true

THIS FUCKIN GUY...

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"INWO is more difficult to learn than most CCGs, but it is infused with much more humor, in common with other Steve Jackson games. As with most CCGs, deck building, aggressive play, and sheer luck are key to winning, but intrigue, negotiation, deal-making, and deviousness are often more important elements. This gives INWO the flavor more of a "friendly" game of Monopoly than of a role-playing game. INWO was released as a 412-card main set in double starter decks (suitable for two players) and sealed packs, in both black-bordered limited and white-bordered unlimited editions. There was also a boxed set called variously "The Factory Set" and "One With Everything" which contained one of each card from the main set of the black-bordered limited edition, multiples of the Illuminati cards, and a few cards previously only available in magazines. One 125-card expansion of sealed packs has been released, called "Assassins", as well as a complete-in-one-box 100-card expansion called "INWO SubGenius". SubGenius can also be played as a stand-alone game. "

[Edited on April 7, 2006 at 5:04 PM. Reason : THIS FUCKIN' GUY]

4/7/2006 5:02:43 PM

no, god damnit, im genuinely curious to read a real article

the only article i saw was from prison planet (which i read, but it was just prisonplanet speculation)
then you posted some stuff about afghanistan that were unrelated


so stop claiming that i am using the denial tactic and please show me a real fucking link

4/7/2006 5:03:27 PM

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"no, god damnit, im genuinely curious to read a real article the only article i saw was from prison planet"

You aren't looking hard enough, or you are in denial once again. I already provided a link to USA Today and The Register articles (both of which were linked to in the prisonplanet article) related to the drills on 9/11.

Here's another article:

http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/story1a012802.html

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"Amid Crisis Simulation, `We Were Suddenly No-Kidding Under Attack' By HART SEELY c.2002 Newhouse News Service On Sept. 11, as Americans watched horror rain upon New York and Washington, command teams at a little-known military outpost in Rome, N.Y., worked feverishly to restore safe skies and rouse a slumbering homeland defense. [...] 6 A.M.: WAR GAMES Sept. 11 was Day II of "Vigilant Guardian," an exercise that would pose an imaginary crisis to North American Air Defense outposts nationwide. The simulation would run all week, and Deskins, starting her 12-hour shift in the Operations Center as the NORAD unit's airborne control and warning officer, might find herself on the spot. [...] 8:40 A.M.: REAL WORLD In the Ops Center, three rows of radar scopes face a high wall of wide-screen monitors. Supervisors pace behind technicians who peer at the instruments. Here it is always quiet, always dark, except for the green radar glow. At 8:40, Deskins noticed senior technician Jeremy Powell waving his hand. Boston Center was on the line, he said. It had a hijacked airplane. "It must be part of the exercise," Deskins thought. At first, everybody did. Then Deskins saw the glowing direct phone line to the Federal Aviation Administration."

4/8/2006 1:18:39 PM

so they thought it was a drill at first
but it was paired with a call from the faa saying it wasnt a drill

how is that supposed to cover up anything?

4/8/2006 1:53:34 PM

THE USA TODAY LINK DOES NOT HELP YOUR CAUSE
THE USA TODAY LINK EXPLICITLY SAYS IT WAS A SMALL CORPORATE PLANE

NOT A FUCKING PASSENGER AIRLINER

THIS IS WHY WE FUCKING GROW WEARY OF YOUR FUCKING ANTICS

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"Officials at the Chantilly, Va.-based National Reconnaissance Office had scheduled an exercise that morning in which a small corporate jet would crash into one of the four towers at the agency's headquarters building after experiencing a mechanical failure. "

THIS FUCKIN' GUY

4/8/2006 2:05:56 PM

HEY FUCKER

YOU GOT ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOUR CARD GAME SET HAD 600 CHANCES OF SOMETHING COMING TRUE?

THIS FUCKIN' GUY

4/8/2006 2:07:09 PM

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"YOU GOT ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOUR CARD GAME SET HAD 600 CHANCES OF SOMETHING COMING TRUE?"

You can try to say that it's just a "coincidence" all you want. Rational people and those not in denial can see that it almost certainly was not a coincidence.

And, as I stated, the Steve Jackson game is merely anecdotal evidence of prior knowledge. I have provided mountains of other more solid evidence proving the "official" 9/11 story is a lie and that the attacks were engineered by a Zionist faction controlling our government. Now, do you have anything to say about all that evidence? Do you have anything to say, for instance, about the controlled demoltion of WTC Building 7 and the twin towers, the phony bin Laden tapes, the fact that the government was planning to invade Afghanistan prior to 9/11, and the 5 Mossad agents arrested on 9/11 after seen filming the WTC attack and celebrating? Or would you rather ignore that evidence and not talk about it?

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"THE USA TODAY LINK DOES NOT HELP YOUR CAUSE"

I disagree.

And what about the newhousenews article? Does it not support my position? Or would you just rather not talk about that article?


[Edited on April 8, 2006 at 2:27 PM. Reason : ````]

4/8/2006 2:22:28 PM

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"I have provided mountains of other more solid evidence proving the "official" 9/11 story is a lie and that the attacks were engineered by a Zionist faction controlling our government."

solid in the sense of jello? ur "solid" evidence is so full of holes u cant even keep track of all of it. that's why so much of it was torn apart in the other thread using ur own evidence; each piece u provided would in some way contradict somethin else previously posted by u. u need to form a set theory of what happened and stick with it providing real evidence and real arguements and not anecdotal stuff with holeless claims and contradictory accounts.

4/8/2006 2:28:09 PM

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"ur "solid" evidence is so full of holes u cant even keep track of all of it"

Name just one piece of evidence I've presented here in this thread that is "full of holes."

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"that's why so much of it was torn apart in the other thread using ur own evidence"

Uh, huh. You wish.

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"each piece u provided would in some way contradict somethin else previously posted by u."

Of those things that did contradict, it was probably in areas where what happened is uncertain, and I was merely posting different explanations of what might have happened.

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"providing real evidence and real arguements"

Have you even read this thread? If so, you would have seen the dozens of pieces of evidence I have provided, including many "mainstream" news articles.

4/8/2006 2:37:54 PM