the failed attempt was the one that the terrorists supposedly used boxcutters. it was the one that crashed in the boonies. maybe because the pilot (who probably knew about the previous attacks because the reporter on board with the cell phone did also) thought "all they have is knives im gonna crah in the boonies". The tragic sucessful attempts probably had more than knives to be sucessful, at least i hope they did. They must have killed the pilots and flown themselves because i doubt any pilot would do that even with a threat. "i am going to die anyways and so is the entire plane, i might as well crash in the water" the pilots would have thought.

9/11/2001 11:38:56 PM

I think the general consensus now is that the terrorists flew the planes themselves. I think you might be on to something about the Pitt flight though. Either the pilot crashed it or the terrorists fucked up trying to operate it. Crashing in an open field seems to suggest the former. It's only my theory, though.

9/11/2001 11:40:28 PM

actually the one with the boxcutters was the one that hit the Pentagon.

the_drew

9/11/2001 11:43:24 PM

are you sure....im not being a smartass i really want to know to support my arguement. are you 100% sure?

[Edited on September 11, 2001 at 11:51 PM. Reason : .]

9/11/2001 11:50:54 PM

From everything i heard, the one with box cutters was the one that landed in bumfuck, PA

9/11/2001 11:51:42 PM

box cutters in Pentagon, that is what the wife told her hubby..both actually. The guy in the bathroom of the one that crashed in the field, he said i think both too. Also the wife said there were group of 3-5 that took control, and the pilots along with passengers were hundled in the back. The guy said there was some explosion and smoke then he said "we are going down" then communication was lost.

[Edited on September 12, 2001 at 12:12 AM. Reason : w]

9/12/2001 12:12:02 AM

this is so goddamn sad it's breaking my heart...

9/12/2001 12:16:34 AM

These guys had trained at it and the guy never reported the hijacked transponder code. So he knew what was going down and said fuck this and put it in the dirt. Thank God, who knows how many more deaths we would be talking about otherwise.

9/12/2001 12:18:27 AM

Yes, the boxcutter hijackers hit the Pentagon, we dont know what the NY planes were hijacked with yet

9/12/2001 12:22:59 AM

yeah the boxcutter one hit the Pentagon...that was the one that Ted Olson's wife was on, she called him....that's how they know about the knives/boxcutters

9/12/2001 12:30:45 AM

who is ted olson?

9/12/2001 12:32:01 AM

the producer of Frasier and his wife were on Flight 11.

the_drew

9/12/2001 12:33:37 AM

Ted Olson was solicitor general or something...I think his job was to handle court cases for the government.

9/12/2001 12:34:43 AM

Bumfuck, Pa has a name, geez, Metal red is still an asshole.

9/12/2001 12:43:03 AM