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" The Democratic party establishment that lost us the White House, the House, The Senate, 27 Governor races and the Supreme Court went all in for Andrew Cuomo. And it appears they lost again. Time for regime change for the Democratic Party."


this is the way

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" if only it were all so simple!"


it is, man. it really is.

6/24/2025 11:16:46 PM

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no it's fucking not. the world is complicated. grow up.

6/24/2025 11:30:42 PM

thegoodlife3
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it’s an objectively good thing when a sex pest who is running for office is defeated

6/24/2025 11:34:08 PM

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Cuomo said he might run as an independent? So I guess like a 4 way with adams and the mamdani guy, and then whoever the repubs put up?

6/24/2025 11:40:51 PM

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Yeah the general could get weird. Blue states and cities aren’t as monolithic as Fox News makes them out to be. This is going to be a slog

6/24/2025 11:50:59 PM

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" The path for Democrats is very clear: have good ideas, believe in them, state them clearly, stick to them, act decisively in support of these ideas, speak to the young half of the electorate, support other democrats who do these things. Follow Mamdani and Lander's example or fade into nothingness."


this is the way

6/25/2025 12:12:06 AM

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Even if he runs in the general, even if he wins, this is likely enough of a stain to keep him out of the 2028 national field, which is good.

6/25/2025 6:53:56 AM

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I wouldn’t get too excited about a Mamdani win. It’s the NYC mayoral race, for one. NYC is not the rest of the country. He was also running against an accused womanizer. He was also running against the establishment there in NYC, of which people there are tired.

Mamdani’s platform would be far too polarizing to use on the national stage.

I know you guys don’t think a Democratic moderate would get things done for your party, but I believe that’s what we will need in 2028.

For fuck’s sake, I just want a return to civility and professionalism in the WH.

And maybe a state department that isn’t run from Truth Social.

[Edited on June 25, 2025 at 7:51 AM. Reason : use not us]

6/25/2025 7:51:17 AM

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You're making leaps and jumps of what folks are happy about. The defeat of cuomo is good in and of itself, even if it had been by another centrist. Showing that the establishment and money don't ALWAYS win is also nice. Opening some folks eyes to the cowardice of many topics figures that were silent and the willingness of other to openly endorse a creep is yet another benefit.

Nationally, the only benefit may be what I have started above, but I'll take it.

As someone left of center im happy someone left of center won a primary, too. But he still has to win a general and, more importantly, govern. And personally his win doesn't make me think left of center has a better shot, even at state level.

6/25/2025 8:46:54 AM

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^

perfectly said

6/25/2025 9:22:36 AM

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" Zohran Mamdani ran on:
-free buses
-rent freeze
-halal cart for $8 instead of $10
-taxing the 1%
-no cost childcare
-city-owned grocery stores
-a Department Of Community Safety for mental health programs and crisis response
-building affordable housing
-why Cuomo sucks

"


The rent freeze to me is the most potentially breaking action— that could cause all sorts of negative effects.

But the rest of them seem doable and would be beneficial. Will be interesting to see how much he can actually get done

6/25/2025 10:08:10 AM

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just read that he got more votes last night than 25% of senators did in their winning elections

[Edited on June 25, 2025 at 10:15 AM. Reason : .]

6/25/2025 10:14:34 AM

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"The moment Andrew Cuomo said he had called Zohran Mamdani to concede the race, Kal Penn stopped mid-sentence. The actor and activist is also a family friend who has known Mamdani since he was 14, and he was speechless. The crowd at Mamdani's Election Night party wasn't.

Mamdani’s election night coalition: A party with Kal Penn, Ella Emhoff, hundreds of passionate and sweaty supporters

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https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/25/politics/mamdani-nyc-election-night-supporters

Seems like he’s plugged in to at least some of the Democratic Party machinery — which is good. Potentially could shift the broader party leadership

6/25/2025 10:33:58 AM

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Who will pay for no cost childcare? Where will that money come from?

Decent childcare here costs upwards of $1400/month, and we’re in freaking Fuquay-Varina. I couldn’t imagine what good childcare costs in NYC. You can’t just say “free childcare” without a plan to pay for it. And I don’t think just taxing the 1% is going to cover it.

It’s like believing DT is going to stop Russia week one of the presidency. Just not gonna happen.

6/25/2025 2:04:20 PM

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https://moneyinc.com/richest-cities-in-the-world/

6/25/2025 2:13:54 PM

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^^
Tax the wealthy

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Congratulations @ZohranKMamdani on your victory in yesterday's primary election and a well-run campaign. I'm wishing you much success in November and beyond as you work to bring New Yorkers together to tackle the city's challenges and shape a stronger, fairer future.

"

6/25/2025 2:19:47 PM

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" just saying, if an pro-transit mayor wants to fund some ambitious policies, there is a massive goldmine of 3 million free parking spaces in New York City just sitting there waiting to be metered"


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" 97% of New York City's three million free parking spots are free. Adding meters to just 25% of free parking spots could generate billions of dollars for the city.

Using demand-based pricing, cities can price parking by block — setting the right price to ensure a few curb spaces are open on every block.

It's simple: prices increase when demand is high and decrease when demand is low.
San Francisco successfully piloted demand-based parking and saw:

• 67% drop in parking search times
• 30% reduction in greenhouse gas emissions
• 22% reduction in double parking"


[Edited on June 26, 2025 at 2:26 AM. Reason : .]

6/26/2025 2:25:36 AM

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^That’s definitely a good idea. I had no idea that there was still free parking in NYC, of all places.

6/26/2025 8:12:56 AM

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"97% of New York City's three million free parking spots are free"


i think they need to check their math

[Edited on June 26, 2025 at 8:31 AM. Reason : i wonder how many parking spots there are in raleigh]

[Edited on June 26, 2025 at 8:31 AM. Reason : and staten island]

6/26/2025 8:31:27 AM

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Only 97% of the free parking spots are actually free?

6/26/2025 9:06:53 AM

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6/26/2025 9:16:07 AM

thegoodlife3
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I’m assuming that free=public

6/26/2025 10:00:35 AM

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they should be free

6/26/2025 10:26:08 AM

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" This is remarkable. New Quinnipiac poll finds support for path to legalization for most undocumented immigrants has risen to 64%. Only 31% want most of them deported.

That's a 14 point net swing for legalization since Trump took office.

On immigration generally, he's at 41-57!

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https://newrepublic.com/article/196154/stephen-miller-erupts-fury-low-arrests-and-hands-dems-weapon

Democrats were cowards not to explicitly run on this

6/26/2025 6:49:09 PM

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I'm not sure I disagree but this seems like a case where trumps cruel methodologies being all over the news may have helped shift opinion.

On the other hand, Dems are dumb for acting like immigration is just a distraction/trap NOW

[Edited on June 26, 2025 at 7:40 PM. Reason : D]

6/26/2025 7:40:22 PM

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Polls are very sensitive to how you ask a question but there’s generally always been a high level of support for immigration and amnesty



GOP just did a good job of painting “open borders” and whipping up fears of “immigrant crime” even though immigrants commit crimes at lower rates than non-immigrants.

I guess this comes back to the same discussion we always have where democrats can’t compete in good faith with rightwing media. Either they need to destroy rightwing media or they need to start making the same bad faith statements?

6/26/2025 8:06:26 PM

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they need to use a megaphone about Republicans being obsessed with the genitals of others while also being arrested for child porn at a frighteningly high rate

the Pedocon Theory

6/26/2025 8:47:33 PM

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"Who will pay for no cost childcare? Where will that money come from?

Decent childcare here costs upwards of $1400/month, and we’re in freaking Fuquay-Varina. I couldn’t imagine what good childcare costs in NYC. You can’t just say “free childcare” without a plan to pay for it. And I don’t think just taxing the 1% is going to cover it.

It’s like believing DT is going to stop Russia week one of the presidency. Just not gonna happen."


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"Zohran Mamdani’s plan to tax the rich is a 2% tax on income over $1 million.

If you make $1.1 million, you’d pay an extra $2,000.

Watching working class conservatives and politicians completely meltdown about this is wild."

6/26/2025 10:41:05 PM

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^ I’m ok with that.

I wonder how many millionaires are living in NYC though. In 2018 there were at least 30,000 million dollar earners in NYC. At 2%, if my math is right, that’s 600 million dollars in extra tax revenue they’d pull in.

I feel like that would be enough to cover good childcare. That alone would cover a year’s worth of daycare/preschool for 35,000 residents (using FV dollars, at 1400/month). I feel like they would have more than 35k people needing it though.

[Edited on June 27, 2025 at 9:31 AM. Reason : Fuquay is where it’s at]

6/27/2025 9:30:29 AM

thegoodlife3
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see what happens when you dig just a little into an issue?

6/27/2025 11:15:29 AM

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why dont democrats blast the pedocon theory 24/7 ??

6/27/2025 11:50:13 AM

rjrumfel
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^^You act as though I don’t do any digging most times.

The law of unintended consequences though. People with that kind of money can easily move. I mean people are already leaving NY and NYC for lower tax states and cities.

6/27/2025 1:56:59 PM

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"how will we pay for it" and "higher taxes will make people move" are just two extremely common conservative talking points when the pundit, or whomever, doesn't have any good objection to the policy/tax beside "I want to keep my money"

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/do-higher-taxes-really-drive-millionaires-to-flee/

6/27/2025 2:18:30 PM

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^^ I’m sorry, but you have a long history of never digging into anything at all

you had a long run of falling for whatever “scandal” right wing media tried to make into a thing

the ultra rich will never leave NYC en masse

6/27/2025 2:54:00 PM

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"Newsom: The gloves are off. Let’s go. We’re gonna call out the bullshit. And the propaganda. And the weaponization of lies and disinformation on networks like Fox…
[video]

"


https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.social/post/3lsmcqpskdz2c

6/27/2025 7:18:37 PM

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When asked about a mayoral candidate why doesn't Hakeem Jeffries do like every gop candidate and change the subject "what truly concerns me is not our mayoral candidate but Donald Trump's massive planned expansion of ice and huge cut to the social safety net"

Force the conversation

6/29/2025 5:58:29 PM

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Maybe he's trying to have an elucidating conversation in good faith.

6/29/2025 6:55:49 PM

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^^
He’s a moron is why (in a bad way )

6/29/2025 9:09:24 PM

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Mamdani responds

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""The President of the United States just threatened to have me arrested, stripped of my citizenship, put in a detention camp and deported. Not because I have broken any law but because I will refuse to let ICE terrorize our city.
His statements don't just represent an attack on our democracy but an attempt to send a message to every New Yorker who refuses to hide in the shadows: if you speak up, they will come for you. We will not accept this intimidation.
That Trump included praise for Eric Adams in his authoritarian threats is unsurprising, but highlights the urgency of bringing an end to this Mayor's time in City Hall. At the very moment when MAGA Republicans are attempting to destroy the social safety net, kick millions of New Yorkers off of healthcare and enrich their billionaire donors at the expense of working families, it is a scandal that Eric Adams echoes this
President's division, distraction and hate.
Voters will resoundingly reject it in November."
"

7/2/2025 12:05:39 PM

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Do Trump's attacks help or hurt Mamdani in the election? I think that they'll help as we go along.

7/2/2025 12:48:44 PM

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In New York City, I think anyone Trump hates gets a boost.

7/2/2025 2:20:20 PM

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I think Trump got a surprising amount of support in NYC last year. Probably your point still stands but.. Also, one of Mamdanis strategies was going around the city asking Trump voters why they voted for him, helped formulate some of his populist policies. Try to actually do some of the things Trump lied about or those voters just thought a "different" person would do better.


Also saw Jeffries defending Mandami against trump today, +1

7/2/2025 5:01:53 PM

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Curious if our best little hero here thinks a sex pest that everybody hates or a corrupt Trump buddy are better for the party. Guess we'll never know.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5394505-dean-phillips-mamdani-democrats/amp/


Let me post other side of the coin too, just had to post the savior first.
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"There are a lot of Democrats in NYC. I'm sure some are Anti-Mamdani. But every article I read about how "Democrats" are trying to stop Mamdani is always light on actual Democrats who are trying to stop Mamdani. Meanwhile, the endorsements keep rolling in: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/10/nyregion/espaillat-endorse-mamdani.html"


[Edited on July 10, 2025 at 3:54 PM. Reason : E]

7/10/2025 3:51:01 PM

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https://twitter.com/JHWeissmann/status/1943829086784110913

7/11/2025 8:42:19 PM

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Experience criticism of Mamdani doesn’t make sense and the grocery store criticism is just innumerate.

The podcast bros like Mamdani too, and if they were the reason Kamala lost, then how can dean now argue Thats a bad strategy. Seems like sour grapes.

7/11/2025 10:08:58 PM

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which podcast bros are we talking about

[Edited on July 11, 2025 at 10:23 PM. Reason : Big Balls told me that experience was apparently necessary]

[Edited on July 11, 2025 at 10:25 PM. Reason : innumerate how. my bodega guys aren't gonna be run out of business by the DMV]

7/11/2025 10:22:20 PM

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^
Schulz and his gang. They’ve called Mamdani an American first democrat. Theyre the new Joe Rogan

And the city run grocery thing is meant to solve food desserts and low income areas. 5 stores isn’t going to put any small business out of business. That’s like saying food pantries or meals on wheels is putting people out of business.

7/11/2025 10:31:39 PM

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^^^^

I clicked in that and went on a 4 hour link clicking frenzy tour of all corners of X.

7/12/2025 4:03:41 AM

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/DL-zcJsSeiI/?igsh=Y2J2Y3Q5emY4c3h6

Schulz in this same podcast said he’d vote for a “centrist democrat” then starts saying he likes the democratic socialist

I don’t think the average person has a clear conception of what center left and right actually means. It more evidence that the right wing is shaping this narrative and basically just making democrat into a slur.

7/12/2025 1:48:33 PM

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Andrew Schulz? I sent my neighbor phill a video of him. Schulz is upset with trump that the epstein thing was bogus, phill feels the same way

7/12/2025 3:17:49 PM

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