I’m sure big-brained CaelNCSU is busy using his AI of choice to formulate a retort to everything he posted in regards to the flu vaccine not being mandated

6/18/2026 8:25:35 PM

Your quip wasn't so good that you had to copy it for the new page. Also, how do you know if the next post is going to start a new page? SOMEONE TELL ME

6/22/2026 2:31:25 PM

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If you find this thread on the soap box landing page you will see 9249 replies.

Any thread with a reply number ending in 49 or 99 means the next one is top of the page

6/22/2026 2:35:39 PM

never was credible

6/22/2026 2:57:17 PM

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"I’m sure big-brained CaelNCSU is busy using his AI of choice to formulate a retort to everything he posted in regards to the flu vaccine not being mandated"

It was opt in by branch. Apparently the air force did not opt in. My broader point was the framing was "Hegseth bans vaccine" when that was not what the memo stated. Apparently the navy in particular fought for keeping the mandate (related to the reasons discussed on the previous page).

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"So I have changed my position from "jacked military trannies do not need to get vaccinated because they are all more masculine than you fatties" to "seems reasonable to mandate it in the boot camp, Navy and marines"."

[Edited on June 23, 2026 at 12:59 PM. Reason : a]

6/23/2026 12:55:43 PM

https://abcnews.com/Health/military-services-requiring-recruits-flu-shots-air-force/story?id=134126794

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" Military services again requiring recruits to get flu shots as Air Force outbreak grows"

6/23/2026 8:31:05 PM

Again, no one could have predicted. . .

6/23/2026 11:19:53 PM

It was impossible

6/23/2026 11:45:07 PM

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" It was opt in by branch. Apparently the air force did not opt in. My broader point was the framing was "Hegseth bans vaccine" when that was not what the memo stated. Apparently the navy in particular fought for keeping the mandate (related to the reasons discussed on the previous page). "

You continue to talk with so much unearned confidence.

The "flu shot optional" policy was not opt-in, you had to request exceptions.

The memo gave commands 15 days to request exceptions, but gave no timetable on approval and still left DoD in charge of whether those exceptions were approved.

All your comments ignore the fact that current DoD leadership is doing their best to only put people who are blindly loyal to appeasing Trump in positions of authority and actively denying promotions or firing those who disagree with policy.

No one said SecDef banned the vaccine, but he did ban the mandate from being universally enforced, which is why the Air Force trainee vaccination rate when from 100% to less than 40.

Simply, you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

6/24/2026 6:45:54 AM

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"All your comments ignore the fact that current DoD leadership is doing their best to only put people who are blindly loyal to appeasing Trump in positions of authority and actively denying promotions or firing those who disagree with policy. No one said SecDef banned the vaccine, but he did ban the mandate from being universally enforced, which is why the Air Force trainee vaccination rate when from 100% to less than 40. Simply, you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about."

The air force could have done what the navy did and kept it which was my original point. It appears the other branches did exactly that. You are free to discuss whatever frame you want. There's plenty of evidence that Hegseth sucks and you can nom nom nom all the content on it you want.

6/24/2026 8:05:32 AM

Thanks for continuing to prove my point

6/24/2026 8:12:01 AM

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"Your argument boils down to "It can't stop the flu all the time, so no mandate is better". You've never been in a military environment, you have no idea what the expectations are of a servicemember, or how much having several members sick at one time can affect things...yet you seem to talk like an expert."

You said this before and I was ignoring boot camp and close quarter situations, which was dumb. Since someone on a boat or boot camp can't just work from home, I stated I changed my position. It's an exceptional case and agree now it should be mandated in those environments.

In addition, my understanding of the effectiveness was something like doesn't work at all most of the time, occasionally 90% when they guess it correctly, so like 4 years 1% 1 year 90% = 90+5/5 = 19%, but it's actually like (50 + 50 + 50 + 90 + 10) / 5 = 50%. So you lose half your crew when there is an outbreak of flu on average instead of 80% of it. They use multiple strains now in one flu vaccine now, so it increases the chance you get some coverage and even the strains that miss sometimes help.

6/24/2026 8:40:21 AM

This thread is boring now. Lets talk about how cabinet members are all participating in a sauerkraut diet.

6/24/2026 9:06:11 AM