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"On one tape Carrie is wearing just a flowing white blouse as she touches her own body in an alluring manner. Carrie can be heard moaning on a few of the tapes."

I'm not gonna lie--that made me feel funny in my pants.

11/13/2009 5:56:25 PM

^^^^^I'm going by the wiki, which says the tape was made at age 20 and not age 17.

And, yeah, sex tapes should absolutely disqualify you from entering Miss America and Miss USA.

If they drop the "morality" qualifications, then they might as well call the whole thing off and just hand out money to pretty girls (Playboy models).

[Edited on November 13, 2009 at 5:59 PM. Reason : ]

11/13/2009 5:57:14 PM

If you ask me, having a beauty pageant is immoral in and of itself. And the entrants are immoral as well, sex tape or not.

Leaving that aside, these sex tapes are all solos. Is it immoral to video or photograph yourself naked? That's just fucking stupid.

11/13/2009 6:04:23 PM

So, you are ok with objectifying women and telling them what is and isn't acceptable?

11/13/2009 6:04:41 PM

aaronburro, that's pretty much the totality of what beauty pageants are.

And, no, I'm not "okay" with them.

It would be nice to shut them down and find some other means to deliver scholarships, but whatever, it's a free country. If people want to be objectified and scrutinized for money, that's their business.

[Edited on November 13, 2009 at 6:12 PM. Reason : ]

11/13/2009 6:11:24 PM

http://rapidshare.com/files/252841074/hank_Carrie_Prejean_F_F_052709_xvid.avi

11/13/2009 6:35:49 PM

I love how rickrolling doesn't work anymore if you have FK's plugin.

11/13/2009 6:38:33 PM

I love how browsers have a status bar at the bottom for the last 500 years, which totally exposes that link for what it is.

11/13/2009 7:28:06 PM

well surrrrrrre if you hover and read...most people just click

11/13/2009 7:29:15 PM

^ my post was actually directed at el nacho

11/13/2009 7:37:26 PM

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"she's a hypocrite TODAY because she did that YEARS AGO? it does not follow. "

you can make that argument, but be consistent
the man who is supporting using the same argument is hannity,
the same guy who digs up people's past and uses that to destroy their good public image,
now hannity is a real hypocrite

11/14/2009 11:16:02 AM

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"No, she's just someone who, as she puts it, made mistakes in her life. Should the disqualify her from seeking out something she wants? I'm sure if we looked hard enough, we'd find a TON of other candidates with similar backgrounds. Why aren't we exposing them? Why aren't we tracking down all of their ex-boyfriends? Oh, right, because they weren't set up by an arrogant dickhead who had no interest in the woman's opinion. "

It’s funny you don’t hold this same view when it comes to other areas of politics.

And disregarding the sex taps, prejean has done other things recently (just before the pageants) in terms of modeling that she condemns in her books. There is no way getting around her being a hypocrite. You can hitch your wagon to her, but her new found religiosity is being manufactured by the right wing agents that are handling her now, and she WILL make another public mistake again. It’s just a matter of time with hypocrites like her.

11/14/2009 12:27:22 PM

This is allegedly it:

http://rapidshare.com/files/307207890/carrie.wmv

11/15/2009 12:32:05 AM

^ lol, nice rickroll

11/15/2009 12:42:55 AM

1. That's not my style, frankly, sir, I am offended.

2. After watching it, it doesn't look like her.

11/15/2009 12:47:31 AM

wait wut.. you're saying this guy doesn't look like her??

11/15/2009 12:52:46 AM

HEH

11/15/2009 12:53:16 AM

once it surfaces, someone with a premie account needs to upload it.

on that note, has anyone seen actual pics that show her topless without stars on her boobs?

[Edited on November 15, 2009 at 10:19 AM. Reason : ]

11/15/2009 10:10:25 AM

wow I just all all respect whatsoever for aaronburro because of this thread.

Dude, you need to open your eyes to the complete ignorance you are spouting. To even say

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"Yes, and this research could never be replicated, except for by a blatantly biased pro-gay group. Thanks for playing, though."

means that you've never even read the research, because it has been replicated, expanded on, and shown to be true over and over again for the past 25 years. Sounds like you need to spend some time on google scholar reading the 10,000+ studies on the topic. Here's a link to get you started:
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=homosexuality+in+animals&hl=en&btnG=Search

I think the whole issue is fucking retarded to begin with. The state shouldn't be allowed to marry ANYONE, because it's a religious convention, and the state should be secular. But ANY pair of human beings should be allowed to form a civil union and be recognized for it, in the eyes of the community and the state.

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"The marriage 'tax-break' is mostly a myth."

Not these days. I know I'd be able to get back almost 1/3 of my current taxes if I were married. That is a HUGE amount of money.

11/15/2009 2:28:56 PM

tdub letting me down ITT

11/15/2009 2:39:25 PM

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"But ANY pair of human beings should be allowed to form a civil union and be recognized for it, in the eyes of the community and the state."

uhhh... so you support NAMBLA??? You support a 53yo dude marrying a 12yo girl?

[Edited on November 15, 2009 at 2:49 PM. Reason : s]

11/15/2009 2:49:34 PM

^legal consenting adults


but nice troll attempt.




[Edited on November 15, 2009 at 3:05 PM. Reason : x]

11/15/2009 3:04:48 PM

he did not specify this; i am left with no choice but to assume that he is an avowed paedophile

11/15/2009 3:05:35 PM

and you love sucking dick ?



...ew thats nasty bro

[Edited on November 15, 2009 at 3:10 PM. Reason : d]

11/15/2009 3:10:22 PM

Not all omissions are equal. He made a controversial claim without qualifying it - using deliberate words that would include children. The language of the debate is such that he could have specified adults without it looking out of place.

Now, about your own claim... Perhaps, perhaps not. I don't see anything particularly sick about it. Are you a homophobe?

11/15/2009 3:18:59 PM

ew... you just admitted to sucking dick


gross bro

11/15/2009 3:19:55 PM

The pejorative sentiment is wasted on me. Sry

[Edited on November 15, 2009 at 3:23 PM. Reason : S]

11/15/2009 3:22:41 PM

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"http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=homosexuality+in+animals&hl=en&btnG=Search"

some animals practice cannibalism after mating. would that make it normal for humans to do so as well? I'll AGAIN, reiterate, biased studies. period

11/15/2009 4:56:02 PM

good lord you're an idiot

11/15/2009 5:47:32 PM

No - he is actually on the $texas. After everyone accepts "gayness" the pedofiles will be up next.

Also - i would enjoy watching Carrie rub the clit.

11/15/2009 7:01:06 PM

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"After everyone accepts "gayness" the pedofiles will be up next."

Care to back that up with...hmm...reality?

11/15/2009 7:05:45 PM

^^ Wow, that's a special kind of slippery slope logical fallacy that only a human with an underdeveloped brain could embrace.

[Edited on November 15, 2009 at 7:14 PM. Reason : ]

11/15/2009 7:14:22 PM

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"No - he is actually on the $texas. After everyone accepts "gayness" the pedofiles will be up next. "

Oooooooh look, let's trot out that old chestnut again. Ahhhh yes, whenever we want to vilify any group, including gays, let's be sure to link them to other behavior we don't approve of. Throw in beastiality, and Communism while you're at it... go for the trifecta motherfucker.

11/15/2009 7:14:28 PM

meh, her "spicey" photo's aren't really that good looking. I would have probably slapped the photographer for horribly lit pictures and he missed the sunrise shots. Wake that bitch up earlier foo! Don't be shooting that shit at f/16.

11/15/2009 8:30:40 PM

80% of all paedophiles are gay. Are you really dumb enough to think that homosexuality is the last deviant behavor - then society is just going to stop pushing the boundaries of what is "wrong" and what is not?

11/15/2009 10:28:47 PM

^ correlation without causation. more murders are committed by heterosexuals. therefore heterosexuals should be proactively be put in prison.

you see what i did there?








dumbass.

11/15/2009 10:31:27 PM

^a+ imo

11/15/2009 10:39:48 PM

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"Care to back that up with...hmm...reality?"

It is real. Society looked at homosexuals 50 years ago, the same way it looks at paedophiles today.

Some will say we are more involved - more accepting. My question is - why is gaynes the cut off line? Why is something 4% of the pop engages is (gay sex) that much different then the 1 - 2% of folks who fuck fido?

Also - typing “ you are a moron” does not prove your theses.

11/15/2009 11:14:14 PM

can we get back to talking about Carrie plz for the love of god

11/15/2009 11:15:50 PM

i don't really have much to contribute to this other than the fact that aaronburro has brought a whole lot of stupid into this thread, but i did lol @ this

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"If the dickweeds would have left it at that, then she would have returned to her previous obscurity and gone back to sucking duck in alleyways"

11/15/2009 11:56:22 PM

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"80% of all paedophiles are gay."

Source plz. That's quite a curious and shocking statistic.

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"more murders are committed by heterosexuals. therefore heterosexuals should be proactively be put in prison."

That's stupid. You have to look at relative numbers, not absolute numbers. (compare percentage of murderers amonf heteros to percentage of murderers among homos)

11/16/2009 5:27:20 AM

Interpretation of events in last week: Carrie Prejean made a sex tape for Larry King.

11/16/2009 7:36:04 AM

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"That's stupid. You have to look at relative numbers, not absolute numbers. (compare percentage of murderers amonf heteros to percentage of murderers among homos)"

Yes, I know it's stupid, and that was my entire point. He put up some stupid shit, so he got some stupid shit back. My point was the correlation without causation.

11/16/2009 8:04:47 AM

A study of Canadian pedophiles has shown that 30 percent of those studied admitted to having engaged In homosexual acts as adults, and 91 percent of the molesters of non-familial boys admitted to no lifetime sexual contact other than homosexual.9 (9. W. L. Marshall, et al., "Early onset and deviant sexuality in child molesters," Journal of interpersonal Violence 6 (1991)

Gaining access to children has been a long-term goal of the homosexual movement.

11/16/2009 8:12:29 AM

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"Gaining access to children has been a long-term goal of the homosexual movement."

You support your point with a statistic from one study, and then you let fly with something like this... incredible. You gonna support this bullshit line too?

I, as a gay man, have zero interest in gaining access to children. Prove that I am a pedophile.

11/16/2009 8:21:33 AM

I could tell you guys a funny store about halloween night, an sketchy old man in a newer Cadillac, and a poor kid whose apartment complex is named "legends"

11/16/2009 8:23:23 AM

There aren't many funny stories that involve Legends. It's a pretty shitty nightclub, gay or otherwise.

11/16/2009 8:28:32 AM

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"I, as a gay man, have zero interest in gaining access to children. Prove that I am a pedophile."

73 percent of homosexuals surveyed had at some time had sex with boys 16 to 19 years of age or younger.5 (5. K. Jay and A. Young, The Gay Report (New York: Summit Books, 1979), p. 275. )

The existance of such Organizations like GLSEN prove my last statement.

Again I ask - why would "gayness" be the last barrier? Why does NAMBLA march in the gay pride prade?

11/16/2009 8:43:29 AM

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"73 percent of homosexuals surveyed had at some time had sex with boys 16 to 19 years of age or younger.5 (5. K. Jay and A. Young, The Gay Report (New York: Summit Books, 1979), p. 275. )"

Couple of things... when I was 16-19, I had sex with people that were my age. Same as you and every other human being. Not to mention that 18 is the legal definition of adulthood in most places, and 16 in others. That statistic is meaningless. But thanks for playing.

Second, that study is 20 years old, and a lot of socio-economic norms have changed. You might look into that.

And why does NAMBLA march in a gay pride parade? Because, by definition, gay pride events are specifically meant to be inclusive. A gay pride event is meant to show diversity. That's why a rainbow flag is associated with gay themes, it's meant to show that there is a spectrum of diversity in all communities. You need not defend someone in order to include them.

[Edited on November 16, 2009 at 8:58 AM. Reason : .]

11/16/2009 8:57:23 AM

Ah - diversity. Everyone is accepted. EVERYONE. Wanna fist your HIV positive partner, go ahead. Wanna ride around town on a penis flote while screaming "we are just like you", why not - EVERYONE is accepted! Diversity!!! Now saying all that - somehow the line will be magically drawn at kid touchers, poo eaters and dog fuckers. Totally logical!

So socio-economic norms changes a gay mans lust for little boys? Wow - I must have missed that issue of The Ecomonist.

11/16/2009 9:19:22 AM