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CaelNCSU
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Watch the video.

9/15/2025 11:32:52 AM

Cabbage
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"It’s Bezos rule of thumb."


The only Bezos's rule of thumb I see is about Bezos's strategy for feeding his employees pizza, not statistics. I do love me some pizza, though.

9/15/2025 11:39:23 AM

CaelNCSU
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https://x.com/carlvellotti/status/1747073864293908804

Another link.

https://articles.data.blog/2024/03/30/jeff-bezos-when-the-data-and-the-anecdotes-disagree-the-anecdotes-are-usually-right/

Related: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_law

Other good Bezosisms: PowerPoint is cancer, one way/two way doors

9/15/2025 11:44:39 AM

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""When the data and anecdotes disagree, the anecdotes are usually right""


Hey look, the whole foundation of "I'd really like to shoot my neighbor today out of fear and dogma, free of consequence, and then go to Walmart on a beer run and watch football in the afternoon."

9/15/2025 11:57:41 AM

dmspack
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Ignoring data in favor of vibes and anecdotes is a very common theme for the party in power!

9/15/2025 12:46:33 PM

CaelNCSU
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"Hey look, the whole foundation of "I'd really like to shoot my neighbor today out of fear and dogma, free of consequence, and then go to Walmart on a beer run and watch football in the afternoon.""


When everyone is a nazi you get to shoot a lot of people!

^ FTFY
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"Ignoring Getting new data in favor of vibes and anecdotes challenging assumptions and deepening your understanding is a very common theme for the party in power! intellectual honesty.
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9/15/2025 1:55:46 PM

thegoodlife3
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kind of funny how you’ve gone from having ChapGPT write your posts for you to now arguing against data that your warped world view has you convinced is wrong

different shades of pathetic, but still pathetic

9/15/2025 2:17:07 PM

CaelNCSU
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You couldn't articulate either my points here or my world view.

9/15/2025 2:28:41 PM

thegoodlife3
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good one

9/15/2025 2:32:00 PM

marko
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"When everyone is a nazi you get to shoot a lot of people!"


Sure.

That'll be what happens.

Just like when all my relatives told me Obama would "take all the guns and redistribute the wealth" in 2016.

9/15/2025 3:56:47 PM

CaelNCSU
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^ yeah Trump is literally Hitler too for saying people bring drugs across the border. I believe all the narratives concurrently.

When you celebrate a murder for someone saying DEI bad and burn down/shout down your opposition it’s going to create a cycle and no one’s hands will be clean. I just hope it’s over before my kid is old enough to pilot a drone. And China isn’t involved so we can still get motors and servos.

9/15/2025 4:28:37 PM

Cabbage
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^

9/15/2025 4:45:49 PM

rjrumfel
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While Cael is full of hyperbole here, there is some truth to consequences when you consistently demonize someone.

9/15/2025 4:53:07 PM

moron
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Is it demonization when youre right though?

Trump is following in hitlers footsteps. We learn about history specifically to not repeat it. If you need to see gas chambers before you fight the Nazis it’s too late then. We should be stopping this now

I can’t think of another way to utilize the lessons of history here without “demonizing” people.

9/15/2025 5:01:34 PM

CaelNCSU
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^ Yes. That’s the whole turn the other cheek lesson. Only thing that breaks the cycle.

Trump is 79. If he was Hitler it would have happened much earlier. If you want to make the argument for Vance or Miller I’ll hear it.

We are on year 10 of Trump is Hitler and all we got is less illegals than Obama deported.

[Edited on September 15, 2025 at 5:10 PM. Reason : A]

9/15/2025 5:08:27 PM

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^
That makes zero sense.

We have masked goons disappearing people, we have 30,000 people detained with no charges, we have rampant allegations of abuse at these facilities, we have broad defunding of scientific research and higher ed, Supreme Court allowing racial targeting of any brown American, ideological purges of government at unprecedented scales, to suggest that freedom loving Americans stay quiet through all this is absurd. And if you read history it’s the exact mentality that lead to the rise of Nazis to become the analogy for evil they are today.

9/15/2025 5:49:12 PM

Cabbage
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^^If so, it's an immature, undeniably flawed lesson. If you're dealing with a person/group intent on causing you harm/death, turning the other cheek will simply remove any obstacles between you and your death. If you follow Ahmisa, maybe that might work for you, but many people are more into self preservation.

And there's another way to break the cycle: One party kills the other party. Cycle ended, simple as that. Sure, a new cycle may begin, but that one is over. In other words: You have a choice between two ethically defensible actions, even if you, personally, don't want a choice.

[Edited on September 15, 2025 at 7:28 PM. Reason : Break Cycle]

9/15/2025 7:26:45 PM

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What a fucking joke. "Data is wrong, anecdotes are right." Then we have "Trump is too old to be like Hitler," because yeah, the common factor we're worried about is their relative age.

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"If you follow Ahmisa, maybe that might work for you, but many people are more into self preservation."


Even that, like pretty much all other nonviolent movements, is fundamentally predicated on violence. These movements work by baiting the oppressor into committing violence, contrasting that with your own peaceability, and then hoping the difference is enough to disgust public/world opinion until your oppressor stops.

9/15/2025 8:09:04 PM

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"I am just going to keep posting that the TX governor recently pardoned a political murderer.

The dude texted "I'm going to shoot protestors", then went and shot a Black Lives Matter protester. He was convicted in a jury trial.

Hard to find a more blatant example of celebrating political violence."

https://www.texastribune.org/2024/05/16/daniel-perry-greg-abbott-pardon/

Add this to Jan 6th pardons. Left might have some folks on bsky condoning violence, right has them in the governors mansion and white house.

[Edited on September 15, 2025 at 11:08 PM. Reason : Oops TGL posted this exact thing in the right wing thread ]

9/15/2025 11:07:20 PM

CaelNCSU
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""Data is wrong, anecdotes are right." "


That is not what I said. Anecdotes are a signal your model may not be correct and you need more data and to update the model.

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"ideological purges of government at unprecedented scales, to suggest that freedom loving Americans stay quiet through all this is absurd. And if you read history it’s the exact mentality that lead to the rise of Nazis to become the analogy for evil they are today."


Not asking anyone to stay quiet. Asking not to get sucked into a spiral of violence that ends with you getting pulled out of a car and asked if you believe in Jesus or "can men become pregnant" and shot when you give the incorrect answer.

This happened a few blocks from me: https://x.com/Anc_Aesthetics/status/1967627989031465201. The rhetoric there does not help. Neither does defacing it and showing blood spurt out of his neck after a vigil was held a few hours before.

9/16/2025 6:46:26 AM

rwoody
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"Anecdotes are a signal your model may not be correct"


You said "usually"


Also
https://www.si.edu/newsdesk/releases/smithsonian-display-emmett-till-historical-marker

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=George+Floyd+defaced

[Edited on September 16, 2025 at 7:10 AM. Reason : E]

9/16/2025 7:07:11 AM

CaelNCSU
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^ Can you not read my mind?! I have a flare for being hyperbolic at the expense of clarity.

9/16/2025 7:42:59 AM

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"This happened a few blocks from me:"


At a place called "Graffiti Bridge," which sounds a lot like the free expression tunnel to me. Tell me, how long do people have to wait before they put graffiti on the graffiti bridge before it becomes acceptable? Does the memorial have to stay up forever? Give me a fucking break.

9/16/2025 8:14:39 AM

CaelNCSU
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Blood spurting out of his neck in the image, and “only good Nazi is a dead Nazi” as justification for it was more the relevant parts. People were posing with finger guns next to it and posting to social media.

Our entire subreddit was cheering on his death too.

9/16/2025 8:24:32 AM

The Coz
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LOL at the description of the original bridge art as beautiful.

9/16/2025 8:30:58 AM

CaelNCSU
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^ at least we agree on something.

DONT SHOOT ME IN VIOLENT LEFTIST VIOLENCE.

9/16/2025 9:00:18 AM

The Coz
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It's the real horror show.

But don't worry. I don't even have a gun.

Although with such permissive gun laws, I could get one any time I wanted for any reason.

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VIOLENCE"

9/16/2025 9:33:47 AM

moron
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Graffiti on a random bridge in Florida isn’t violence. Kill Nazis is a long time classic American sentiment.

9/16/2025 10:25:52 AM

CaelNCSU
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And everyone that doesn’t want to cut the tits off a 15 year old or has questions about effectiveness of DEI is a Nazi. Also, milquetoast white dudes with lame hair cuts who would have been in FCA when we were in college.

9/16/2025 10:48:14 AM

The Coz
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I think only one poster here actually thinks that.

9/16/2025 11:02:52 AM

thegoodlife3
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weird way to come out against breast reduction surgery

even weirder to seemingly be obsessed with it

9/16/2025 11:06:20 AM

StTexan
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I figured he was talking about gender reassignment when he mentioned cutting off tits, not breast reduction surgery

9/16/2025 11:14:03 AM

CaelNCSU
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I figured two posters.

9/16/2025 11:18:10 AM

rjrumfel
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^^That’s just TGL’s shtick. I can’t put it in words, but everybody else here knows what Cael meant, even him, but he comes out and says something completely different.

9/16/2025 11:56:50 AM

thegoodlife3
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my shtick is to leave people the fuck alone and let them live the lives they want to live

9/16/2025 12:04:58 PM

CaelNCSU
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" they have the right to do that and probably prefer employees that are vaccinated against a deadly virus over employees who are vulnerable to dying from said deadly virus

every company should mandate it"


Clearly. Unless the pharma industry tells me otherwise.

[Edited on September 16, 2025 at 12:14 PM. Reason : A]

9/16/2025 12:13:41 PM

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"https://x.com/Anc_Aesthetics/status/1967627989031465201"


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"Violent far left terrorists are now destroying memorial murals painted to honor Charlie’s life.

This one happened in Pensacola, Florida.

This is a perfect analogy for what they aim to do to the entire country. Take something beautiful and turn it into an ugly dysgenic monstrosity.

These people just need to be removed from society and put behind bars for the rest of their lives, there is no other way."


Ah yes, people who vandalize a memorial are "violent far left terrorists" who should be "put behind bars for the rest of their lives"

Very normal and logical take

9/16/2025 12:27:50 PM

dmspack
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lol. We must protect free speech. Also graffiti is now a lifetime prison sentence.

9/16/2025 12:33:23 PM

moron
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And everyone that doesn’t want to cut the tits off a 15 year old or has questions about effectiveness of DEI is a Nazi.

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The Nazis are the people who convince the gullible idiots that these are the issues they should be thinking about, while they literally rob the country of billions and undermine or destroy every principle of democracy, and reinstate concentration camps and racially targeted “policing”.

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" Also, milquetoast white dudes with lame hair cuts who would have been in FCA when we were in college.

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The banality of evil… it doesn’t take a lot of strong will, just a lot of people with a little to no will, but aligned, to commit atrocities.

9/16/2025 12:43:39 PM

CaelNCSU
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They have moved onto use the full power of the USGOV to punish their enemies. Catch up.

A few far right people are calling it woke right and dissenting but there’s support for cracking heads. Moron may get to take up arms and become a martyr yet.

9/16/2025 12:46:36 PM

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None of this would be an issue if we just obeyed dear leader.

9/16/2025 12:50:10 PM

rjrumfel
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^^^Some of us are concerned about all of it, not just picking and choosing. I don’t like who is running the country right now. Using the same hyperbolic phrase from Cael, I’m also concerned about cutting the tits off of 15 year olds. We don’t have to be concerned with just one thing.

9/16/2025 1:03:08 PM

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