MetalRed, I thought the assertion was "Most terrorists are Arabs", and not "Most terrorists who have attacked the US are Arabs".

Please decide upon your assertion, and stick with it.

9/12/2001 12:14:08 AM

i also haven't seen anyone prove it.

9/12/2001 12:14:50 AM

proof is a very strong word, and it is not the same as evidence

[Edited on September 12, 2001 at 12:15 AM. Reason : ]

9/12/2001 12:15:31 AM

interesting that almost everyone is pointing at the arabs...past experience might have quite a bit to do with that...

9/12/2001 12:15:47 AM

http://web.nps.navy.mil/~library/tgp/tgpmain.htm

here's some fuel for both sides!

scroll all the way down and say I ACCEPT

9/12/2001 12:15:54 AM

i disproved it...
he origanally said that terrorist=arabs..

i provided a counter example. I disproved his theory

9/12/2001 12:16:06 AM

Trap, the list is on the first page.
Dont be stupid.

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"MetalRed, I thought the assertion was "Most terrorists are Arabs", and not "Most terrorists who have attacked the US are Arabs". Please decide upon your assertion, and stick with it."

Fine, ill say "Most terrorists in the last 100 years" My statement still holds true. Do some research to prove me wrong.

And this isnt a question of whether we did anything to them or not. Im not saying that this was
entirely unprovoked.
The fact that we did do something to cause such hatred gives arabs that much more motivation,
and goes to further prove my point.



[Edited on September 12, 2001 at 12:18 AM. Reason : ]]

9/12/2001 12:16:08 AM

plttd

9/12/2001 12:19:09 AM

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"interesting that almost everyone is pointing at the arabs...past experience might have quite a bit to do with that..."

no ironmike, maybe it is the biased american media? do you ever hear of terrorism committed by jews on cnn, abc, nbc...? of course not, because the whole US media is controlled by jews, and they naturally hate arabs/muslims. so, the only thing you ever see in the media here is terrorism committed by arabs/muslims, while the rest goes unreported.

9/12/2001 12:19:45 AM

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""most terrorists are arabs" the ONLY way this can be verified is if an all-inclusive list of terrorist activities, say, in the last 1,000 years, is drawn up, no matter where the activities took place, and it is found that the majority are arabs. to my knowledge, i have seen no such list by any of the proponents of the assertion yet."

Okay, look trap. Stop trying to cop out by saying "oh blah blah blah, I won't listen to history, you're all talking bullshit, I'm still not convinced that Arabs are responsible for a lot of terrorism, you'd have to look back thousands of years blah blah blah"

Dude, listen... I know this may hit close to home for you but let's face it: modern, American-targeted terrorism as we know it is initiated in large part by Arabs. It is not that far off-base to say that most terrorists that target Americans are Arabs. I know that you subscribe to this new age "there are no absolutes" thinking, but goddamn, just face it: it's the truth. For every terrorist attack on America initiated by a non-Arab, anybody up on their history can name at least ten others that were initiated by Arabs (hell, just look a little further up this thread, Republican18 listed a good number already, off the top of his head!). Nobody in this thread is saying ALL (or MOST) ARABS ARE TERRORISTS, they are saying MOST TERRORISTS ARE ARABS (let me qualify this one by saying TERRORISTS = TERRORISTS TARGETING AMERICA). Believe it or not, those two statements are not the same. You're "trapped", as it were .

PS: Before you mention Timothy McVeigh, just remember this quote that I've had to repeat over and over again which nobody seems to pay attention to:

Quote :

"Don't try to disprove my generalization with an isolated exception."

9/12/2001 12:20:21 AM

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"Trap, the list is on the first page."

is the list all-inclusive? NO!!!!

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"Fine, ill say "Most terrorists in the last 100 years" My statement still holds true. Do some research to prove me wrong."

the burden of proof lies on you to prove your statement, and you haven't proved it yet. why should anybody try to disprove something you haven't proved yet?

9/12/2001 12:21:51 AM

Does Isreal have a reason to kill 25,000 Americans? No! They love us!
We help them fight Palestine. Which is why Palestine hates us.
The only people that have the motive to plan an attack on American soil is the Arabs.
Name another nation or people who hate us enough to do it.

9/12/2001 12:22:38 AM

trap: how about you respond to the post I just made...

9/12/2001 12:22:57 AM

shut up Mr. Holier Than Though

9/12/2001 12:23:03 AM

Compliling a list over the past 1000 years doesnt prove a goddamn thing as the countries
involved today didnt exist a thousand years ago.

Ill repeat this again incase you didnt have your glasses on the first time.

Compliling a list over the past 1000 years doesnt prove a goddamn thing as the countries
involved today didnt exist a thousand years ago.

9/12/2001 12:24:56 AM

MetalRed: save your breath. People like him absolutely will NOT be convinced about these sorts of things. Even if you DID compile his magical thousand year list, he'd just come back and say "well that's just bullshit. You'd have to go back AT LEAST five thousand years." And so on and so forth.

9/12/2001 12:26:42 AM

Trap I listed 10 fucking acts of terrorism in the last 30 years ALL of which were arab and ALL of which are TRUE. I did it WITHOUT research I named them off the top of my head. WHY, because ARABS commit terrorist Acts DAMMIT. FACE THE FUCKIN FACTS I AM SICK OF YOUR BULLSHIT. It might hurt to know the truth but DAMMIT look at THE FACTS.

9/12/2001 12:26:53 AM

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"WHY, because ARABS commit terrorist Acts "

see this is the fucking stupid attitude that your stupid fucking generalizations are leading to.

9/12/2001 12:28:20 AM

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"no ironmike, maybe it is the biased american media? do you ever hear of terrorism committed by jews on cnn, abc, nbc...? of course not, because the whole US media is controlled by jews, and they naturally hate arabs/muslims. so, the only thing you ever see in the media here is terrorism committed by arabs/muslims, while the rest goes unreported."

9/12/2001 12:28:28 AM

Hey trapezius, I'm still waiting for you to reply to my last comment... or was it sufficient enough to back you into a corner...?

9/12/2001 12:29:20 AM

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""WHY, because ARABS commit terrorist Acts ""

xienze, i thought the 2 statements were different? see what repub18 is saying?

9/12/2001 12:29:29 AM

ah, unreported...yeah, i'll bet the media would not have shown the towers being demolished if it had been by Jewish people...riiiight

9/12/2001 12:29:39 AM

trap respond to my thread....oh and i am sure that more arabs attack jews than jews attack arabs, just to let ya know .

9/12/2001 12:29:47 AM

Now Trapezius is a racist. Look what he said about Jews.... OOOOOHHH Racist Pakistani.

[pakistani accent][waving finger]You very bad man, Trapezius. Very very bad.[/waving finger][/pakistani accent]

J

9/12/2001 12:30:02 AM

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"do you ever hear of terrorism committed by jews on cnn, abc, nbc...? of course not, because the whole US media is controlled by jews"

HOLY SHIT TRAPEZIUS! THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN UNQUALIFIED GENERALIZATION!

9/12/2001 12:30:14 AM

Truth hurts huh trap, quit crying like a bitch and face up to it.

9/12/2001 12:30:39 AM

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"xienze, i thought the 2 statements were different? see what repub18 is saying?"

Well, let's just ignore his comment. I'd rather you just respond to mine.

9/12/2001 12:30:59 AM

he said Arabs commit terrorism...NOT "All Arabs commit terrorism"

9/12/2001 12:31:27 AM

i know what he said, and in the same vein, i can say americans commit terrorirsm, christians also do it, swiss also do it....

9/12/2001 12:32:30 AM

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"he said Arabs commit terrorism...NOT "All Arabs commit terrorism""

Don't use phrases like that, it gives him too much room to cop-out. Instead:

I am saying (and I imagine this is what others are saying...):
MOST AMERICAN-TARGETED TERRORISM IS INITIATED BY ARABS
not
MOST ARABS ARE TERRORISTS

Okay trapezius, I'm patiently waiting for you to respond to my post (and only my post... disregard the others, please).

9/12/2001 12:33:43 AM

but you cannot say that most terrorists are swiss or whatnot...

9/12/2001 12:33:46 AM

but who does it more statistically, damn trap you call me uneducated.....

9/12/2001 12:33:50 AM

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"i know what he said, and in the same vein, i can say americans commit terrorirsm, christians also do it, swiss also do it...."

Yeah, no shit trap. But I'm asking you to respond to the post I made not too long ago. I know you saw it, because you're not responding to it. I don't think you can work around something that concrete, buddy.

9/12/2001 12:34:46 AM

Edit <-- Okay, okay, it was meant in jest. Meaning that when we retaliate there will undoubtedly be some innocent people near our targets that will be hurt by it. If I was from that region and in America, I'd stay put just for that reason...

J

[Edited on September 12, 2001 at 12:43 AM. Reason : *]

9/12/2001 12:38:51 AM

thats uncalled for 30th...i've got nothing personal against trap or any other person who had nothing to do with this...

9/12/2001 12:39:39 AM

yeah, that was pretty poor taste dude.

9/12/2001 12:40:21 AM

poor taste..we are all friends, despite views.

9/12/2001 12:41:47 AM

Regardless, I think trap has run home with his tail between his legs. Dammit, I was really hoping he would respond to my post without trying to cop-out.

9/12/2001 12:43:12 AM

30thAnnZ:

what did you say? was it a threat to my life? if so, i don't take those lightly, and i would be more than happy to call RPD.

people, WHAT DID HE SAY?

9/12/2001 12:48:38 AM

trap has no substance

9/12/2001 12:48:48 AM

trapezius: before he edited it, he said something like "Go home or you'll have a cruise missile up your ass" (something like that).

Now PLEASE! Respond to my post! I even mailed you a copy in case scrolling up is too much trouble.

9/12/2001 12:50:17 AM

No it wasn't anything like that. I said now might not be a good time to go home. It would be bad to get a cruise missile up your ass. Then a winkie

I was just joking around, but after the posts behind it I looked back and thought it was in poor taste, so I changed my mind and edited it.

The edit really was what I was getting at though. No offense.

J

9/12/2001 12:50:36 AM

I never said to go home! I said to stay! Sheesh...

J

9/12/2001 12:51:09 AM

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"we are all friends despite views "

does this mean even me rougewolf? i thought i was hated on here?

9/12/2001 12:51:22 AM

Well sorry, bad memory I guess. But it was something along those lines. I know the cruise missile part was what the "controversy" was all about... I know I got THAT part right .

9/12/2001 12:51:57 AM

xienze, WAIT

9/12/2001 12:52:03 AM

Oh, it's that good huh? I really, really want to hear this. I'm missing out on my sleep for this one.

9/12/2001 12:52:50 AM

A lot of terrorist attacks on the US may be linked to arab nations. But look at all the acts of terrorism all around the world. The IRA commits heinous acts of terrorism all the time.

9/12/2001 12:54:01 AM

yes even you...rep18

9/12/2001 12:54:17 AM

can you feel the love tonite...

9/12/2001 12:54:58 AM