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Elwood
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Have to cash in on those turnovers, we missed or turned the ball over right after.

Live by the 3 die by the 3.

no inside out movement from state and when we passed to a shooter they were all over them before they could shoot or even blocked it.

I'm a little tired of the switching, I watched Auburn just dribble move to get the switch they wanted then score, several times.

and they looked like past teams at time not stopping the ball and leading to dunks.

If you can't stop them from making shot you better make your shots

also not technical fouls this game (i turned in off, so don't think there was one).

can we sign a player of a team mid season, the white boy from VCU

12/4/2025 9:50:38 AM

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Seemed like we switched less last night. Hedged some screens that I haven’t seen us do earlier in the year. Doubling the post led to back to back open 3s that they knocked down. Somebody smarter than me will have to tell me if we aren’t rotating quick enough, guys are missing assignments, or the other team has just figured out what we’re doing and exploiting it. Or all of the above.

12/4/2025 9:59:20 AM

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The bed beckoning joke was really good by the way

12/4/2025 10:38:56 AM

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I didn't get it. I just figured it was a reference to the lateness of the game

12/4/2025 10:43:44 AM

dmspack
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Niche joke for us east coast State basketball fans that prefer to be in bed before 11pm

12/4/2025 10:49:59 AM

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PI!!!1 (and Pomeroy!1)

https://packinsider.com/2025/12/04/based-on-the-data-nc-state-basketball-is-one-of-the-most-unlucky-programs-in-the-country/

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"KenPom looks at every game the team has played. Then, using his adjusted efficiency margins (AdjOE/AdjDE), he calculates the expected win probability in each game. For every close game (especially one-possession games in the last few minutes), he figures out roughly how often a team with their efficiency should win that specific game. He then compares the actual wins in those games to the expected wins.

If a team won more close games than expected ? positive Luck (they’ve been lucky)
If they lost more close games than expected ? negative Luck (they’ve been unlucky)

So where does NC State slot in here? Well, they are one of the most unlucky teams in the country.

They rank 318th out of 365 teams, with a luck rating of -.092."

12/4/2025 10:50:00 AM

Elwood
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SHUT THE BED

The Bed Shutoning on the red reckoning

rather be lucky than good

12/4/2025 11:22:36 AM

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Big game against UNCA tomorrow. State has lost 2 in a row and 3 of 4. UNCA meanwhile has won 2 in a row including a win over common opponent UNCG.

This game has huge implications for the state championship. Both teams are 2-0 against in-state opponents. NC State has 2 technical fouls in in-state games this year, something we’ve discussed as being a key to victory for our Pack. I hope we see that same edge in this rivalry game. UNCA has an enrollment of around 3000 while NC State’s is closer to 40000. Roughly 13x as many students. Which means Coach Will Wade has a lot of choices when it comes filling out his roster. UNCA is limited with its lower enrollment. While not a one for one calculation, I think it’s fair to say that have a larger pool of students to select from has led to the talent discrepancy State should have over Asheville.

When it comes to common opponents, Asheville beat UNCG by 5. We beat UNCG by 46. But let’s pump the brakes before predicting a 41 point Wolfpack victory. You gotta throw the record books out when in-state rivals meet up. Emotions should be high in this one. My advanced projection model has this has a 97-56 Wolfpack win.

12/5/2025 10:27:41 AM

Bullet
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Remember this guy?

12/5/2025 11:01:42 AM

justinh524
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How many bulldogs end up shooting >50% from 3?

12/5/2025 12:37:36 PM

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^^^ you aren’t even factoring in our negative luck rating.

[Edited on December 5, 2025 at 6:39 PM. Reason : Where will the points come from?]

12/5/2025 6:38:59 PM

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"Where will the points come from?"


Probably from the basketball players

12/5/2025 6:59:52 PM

dmspack
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^^ this is college basketball stats 101. Negative luck rating is covered in the 300 level courses. Maybe by February we’ll be that far in our studies!

^ great answer coach woody!

12/5/2025 7:15:04 PM

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"Big game against UNCA tomorrow. State has lost 2 in a row and 3 of 4. UNCA meanwhile has won 2 in a row including a win over common opponent UNCG.

This game has huge implications for the state championship. Both teams are 2-0 against in-state opponents. NC State has 2 technical fouls in in-state games this year, something we’ve discussed as being a key to victory for our Pack. I hope we see that same edge in this rivalry game. UNCA has an enrollment of around 3000 while NC State’s is closer to 40000. Roughly 13x as many students. Which means Coach Will Wade has a lot of choices when it comes filling out his roster. UNCA is limited with its lower enrollment. While not a one for one calculation, I think it’s fair to say that have a larger pool of students to select from has led to the talent discrepancy State should have over Asheville.

When it comes to common opponents, Asheville beat UNCG by 5. We beat UNCG by 46. But let’s pump the brakes before predicting a 41 point Wolfpack victory. You gotta throw the record books out when in-state rivals meet up. Emotions should be high in this one. My advanced projection model has this has a 97-56 Wolfpack win."


what?

12/6/2025 12:51:01 AM

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Big game against UNCA tomorrow. State has lost 2 in a row and 3 of 4. UNCA meanwhile has won 2 in a row including a win over common opponent UNCG.

This game has huge implications for the state championship. Both teams are 2-0 against in-state opponents. NC State has 2 technical fouls in in-state games this year, something we’ve discussed as being a key to victory for our Pack. I hope we see that same edge in this rivalry game. UNCA has an enrollment of around 3000 while NC State’s is closer to 40000. Roughly 13x as many students. Which means Coach Will Wade has a lot of choices when it comes filling out his roster. UNCA is limited with its lower enrollment. While not a one for one calculation, I think it’s fair to say that have a larger pool of students to select from has led to the talent discrepancy State should have over Asheville.

When it comes to common opponents, Asheville beat UNCG by 5. We beat UNCG by 46. But let’s pump the brakes before predicting a 41 point Wolfpack victory. You gotta throw the record books out when in-state rivals meet up. Emotions should be high in this one. My advanced projection model has this has a 97-56 Wolfpack win.

12/6/2025 8:18:00 AM

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This team is laughably bad

12/6/2025 1:45:59 PM

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12/6/2025 1:59:45 PM

Talage
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Just got back from 2nd half warmups. 2nd half is gonna be lit yall.

12/6/2025 2:14:27 PM

rwoody
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Dw acc preseason player of the year who spends most of the first half on the bench and barely shoots

Copeland is my favorite player on this team, which greatly surprises me

I'm behind but just saw DW pass up an open 3, Copeland then made an open 3

12/6/2025 2:26:51 PM

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" The bed beckoning joke was really good by the way"


lol thank you

12/6/2025 2:28:49 PM

dmspack
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DW is a mystery to me.

Q is the engine of the offense and he can make stuff happen and he can be fun. But he kinda has a proven history of what he is and if he’s our offensive engine/bus driver/whatever I’m not sure that’s the sign of a good team.

Also struggling with UNCA isn’t the sign of a good team. Lots of signs that this isn’t a good team.

12/6/2025 2:47:55 PM

justinh524
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Yeah this is a performance that would get Keatts raked over the coals.

Also 16 minutes for Breed so far? Lol that's all i needed to see. Wade is not a good coach

[Edited on December 6, 2025 at 3:00 PM. Reason : Lol he's going to hit 20 minutes this game]

12/6/2025 2:55:20 PM

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Feels like Wade is just trying all kinds of stuff. Scottie starting. Deng playing early in the game after sitting on the bench for the past couple games. Breed getting lots of minutes. McNeil getting less. Kind of a desperation attempt to send a message…

I’m not saying Wade isn’t a good coach. But there’s just something off with the roster. It’s partly a talent issue. Which is disappointing given the increased investment…this is what increased investment gets us? But also the talent is there is just not meshing yet or something is just off.

[Edited on December 6, 2025 at 3:04 PM. Reason : H]

12/6/2025 3:01:25 PM

justinh524
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Yeah it's gonna be funny when the money dries up after this year because of these results. A couple big donors are gonna be like "nah we're good" after watching wade just light stacks of cash on fire

12/6/2025 3:04:54 PM

dmspack
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I didn’t watch much of this game but…shoot over 60% in the second half, nearly 50% for the game and still only beat a shitty UNCA team by 12. That’s bad.

12/6/2025 3:09:34 PM

justinh524
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Breed is averaging almost as many fouls as he is points per game. And his minutes are continuing to go up!

I feel like I'm Frank Grimes here.

12/6/2025 3:18:39 PM

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https://x.com/fleischman_noah/status/1997671935296049176?s=46&t=lHWRQcd88WhEW7wh4gQSIw

Really strong pregame comments from Wade. But looking at minutes played I guess Breed and Deng played more. And Scottie got the token start but otherwise didn’t play. So all the bluster in his pregame comments and the final minutes don’t look drastically different really.

12/7/2025 9:48:10 AM

justinh524
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He was right, breed can play just as poorly as everyone did against Auburn! He showed it in 20 minutes of doing very little!

12/7/2025 10:35:17 AM

Talage
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Yeah, fuck that guy. Basketball games are won by stuffing the stat line. Come to think of it, we should adopt the Grinnel System. If you're doing anything besides shooting 3s, GTFO.

12/8/2025 12:28:02 AM

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https://share.google/tjchxlYOHTQsSmDgu

Our bad luck will go down!

12/8/2025 7:19:05 AM

Elwood
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My Kids got to go down on the court and do "here comes the Wolfpack!" to start the 2nd half. My son knocked it out of the park, i credit him with the Teams second half.

we are now undefeated when my Son is on the court. #datapoint #analysis

I was praying to no be down at half time, ha. we got to watch the last 5 min of the 1st by the court and high 5 the team and coaches. really cool.

Also, what is our historical 3 pt defensive Eff in the past 10 year, my goodness we give up lots of 3s.

12/8/2025 10:15:40 AM

Talage
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^ how the heck do you submit your kid's name for that? Is it a wolfpack club only thing? I googled but couldn't find anything about it.

12/8/2025 12:48:59 PM

Elwood
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It's through the NIL https://onepacknil.com/pages/junior-savage-wolves

they send out emails for meet and greats, photo ops, they send player video messages on kids birthday. My Daughter got one from Duke Scott after his huge GT game.

12/8/2025 1:31:16 PM

rwoody
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Step 1 donate $Texas to NIL

12/8/2025 1:47:06 PM

Talage
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Ah, now I see. Guess I'll try that out for next year. Thanks for the info.

[Edited on December 9, 2025 at 10:11 PM. Reason : .]

12/9/2025 10:10:47 PM

Bullet
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[Edited on December 10, 2025 at 11:47 AM. Reason : ]

12/10/2025 11:47:02 AM

justinh524
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Wut

12/10/2025 11:55:44 AM

Bullet
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Who are we playing tonight?

12/10/2025 12:13:55 PM

justinh524
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IDK i have checked out

[Edited on December 10, 2025 at 12:58 PM. Reason : The emus]

12/10/2025 12:57:37 PM

rwoody
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It's funny Justin was the main one saying these players we're getting aren't very good and is now the most shocked and angry that he doesn't think the players are very good.

[Edited on December 10, 2025 at 1:53 PM. Reason : Checking thread is not very "checked out" behavior!! ]

12/10/2025 1:52:28 PM

Bullet
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I find it funny that he talks about how bad players are, but then admits that he's hardly watched any of the games.

12/10/2025 1:56:44 PM

Talage
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This is easily the best team we've had in 10 years. If you're checked out already, maybe college basketball just isn't your sport.

12/10/2025 2:12:19 PM

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I have watched (at least parts of) all the games so far. Am i going to watch this one? No.

This team is not enjoyable to watch. And it's definitely not "easily the best team we've had in 10 years." That is a hilarious thing to say about a team that has lost to every good team they've played and just struggled against another low/mid major (again)

12/10/2025 4:58:05 PM

Talage
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Yeah, so college basketball isn't your sport dawg. Not all good teams are big conference name brands. We've actually beaten two good teams already. We have a quad 1 win and our worst loss is a quad 2. If the tournament selection happened today we would be in and it wouldn't be that BS first round thing as an 11 seed either.

12/10/2025 5:44:45 PM

justinh524
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Lol ok guy

12/10/2025 6:17:55 PM

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Ven-Allen is Lubin up the Liberty defenders

12/10/2025 7:35:20 PM

TreeTwista10
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This little Kaden Metheny fella is exactly the type of person who seems like they'd be playing basketball for Liberty

12/10/2025 7:42:21 PM

Talage
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Damn, somehow this is his sixth season of D1 basketball.

12/10/2025 8:04:40 PM

dmspack
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Pretty good so far tonight!

12/10/2025 8:05:01 PM

HaLo
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Fun being up 40 in the second

12/10/2025 8:29:54 PM

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