^^^^^^Pretty much all of northern England had the problem. Here's a couple summaries:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_sex_trafficking_gang

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

Those links are not supposed to demonstrate that Muslims are all woman-hating pimps. Like, I'm not a bigot, and I have plenty of positive experiences with Muslim acquaintances.

But it's distressing to me how eager people are to paper over plain truths with foolishness like, "Oh yeah? Well, Christians are bad, too. Americans abuse women, too! And you're a backwards mouth breather if you even tilt your head curiously during this conversation."

And it seems like people are behaving this way just cause they don't wanna get mistaken for Big4Country or something. I dunno...it's weak and dishonest. I don't wanna talk to people who are able to act that way with a straight face. There's no conversation worth having with people like that.

And it turns out that too many people like that can turn a blind eye to child sex abuse. It's dangerous.

[Edited on June 23, 2016 at 1:15 PM. Reason : sss]

6/23/2016 1:12:30 PM

Pretty amazing (and wonderful) that an armed gunman entered a theater and opened fire without hitting anyone. That's taking incompetence to a whole new level.

6/23/2016 1:52:18 PM

BridgetSPK has never really come across as particularly stable or intelligent, but she's really doubling down on it with this issue

6/23/2016 1:52:34 PM

^^ seen some rumors saying he was shooting blanks.

6/23/2016 1:53:48 PM

Ive heard reports that it was actually.....

6/23/2016 1:57:36 PM

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"Those links are not supposed to demonstrate that Muslims are all woman-hating pimps. Like, I'm not a bigot, and I have plenty of positive experiences with Muslim acquaintances. But it's distressing to me how eager people are to paper over plain truths with foolishness like, "Oh yeah? Well, Christians are bad, too. Americans abuse women, too! And you're a backwards mouth breather if you even tilt your head curiously during this conversation." And it seems like people are behaving this way just cause they don't wanna get mistaken for Big4Country or something. I dunno...it's weak and dishonest. I don't wanna talk to people who are able to act that way with a straight face. There's no conversation worth having with people like that. And it turns out that too many people like that can turn a blind eye to child sex abuse. It's dangerous."

So much is wrong with this post that I'm not quite sure where to begin...

6/23/2016 2:19:10 PM

Can someone Cliff Notes the status of this thread please?

6/23/2016 2:22:08 PM

I'm stupid and crazy, and there's so much wrong with my perspective that higher-minded people don't even know where to start on correcting me. I'm just that stupid and crazy.

6/23/2016 4:11:40 PM

I mean you're basically insinuating that "liberals" are giving radical Muslims a free pass, while turning a blind eye to human sex trafficking so they appear PC in the eyes of, um, people. What?

6/23/2016 5:45:31 PM

^ that's exactly the reasoning that was used by police and local governments for turning away victims in many of those cities, in some cases even returning them to their abusers. They covered it up for DECADES to risk inflaming sensitivities and being seen as racist.

Hard to believe or even comprehend, but true.

6/23/2016 6:17:08 PM

Ok, but "people" is being thrown around in a pretty confusing way. I am certainly not one of those "people" and I'm certainly not going to start being afraid of my Muslim students/coworkers/acquaintances/neighbors all of the sudden as a way to combat radical Muslim extremism AND somehow combat human sex trafficking. That's just nuts.

[Edited on June 23, 2016 at 6:38 PM. Reason : .]

6/23/2016 6:37:45 PM

I never said "liberals," so I don't know why you're putting that in quotes.

And I'm not insinuating anything. That's exactly what happened. For fear of appearing intolerant or insensitive, the police allowed Muslim men to rape poor, white girls for years without consequence. Victims' advocates who saw that nothing was being done actually went into Muslim neighborhoods alone to try and convince the community to out and shame the men who were involved.

And, even after it was uncovered, they've still tried to obscure the truth of the matter, referring to it as a trend among "Asians." Of course, any Asian who is not a Pakistani Muslim is justifiably pissed.

At this point, we're screwing over Asians, gays, women, Jews, and children just so we don't look Islamaphobic. It's absolutely absurd. And I know that dtownral guy is a troll, but I'm not crazy. I mean, even Canada has said that they won't be accepting single men from Syria.

6/23/2016 6:53:14 PM

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" ...Meanwhile, your claim that the San Bernardino shooters slipped through the cracks due to fears of Islamophobia accusations is the real reality, huh? No cite needed, it's just the God-given Truth. Have I got that right?"

Or you could just Google it?

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" Aaron Elswick, whose friend lives on the street, told KTLA a neighbor described her regret at not reporting Farook and Malik. She had seen them receiving multiple packages but did not want to racially profile them. 'She didn't want to do any kind of racial profiling. She's like, 'I didn't call it in … maybe it was just me thinking something that's not there.' Neighbors claim Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik were working late into the night in their garage in Redlands, California, but did not know whether to report them. It has emerged the couple had 12 pipe bombs in the house "

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3344736/Neighbors-Saudi-husband-wife-San-Bernardino-shooters-noticed-acting-suspiciously-did-NOT-report-fear-racial-profiling.html

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" JCE bot poetry, folks. And they said the first real robots would be used for sex..."

Seems like it is more of a bot thing to spam liberal propaganda links every hour...

I wish we had some bots that were programmed to talk some sense into the SJW crowd here.

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"^ that's exactly the reasoning that was used by police and local governments for turning away victims in many of those cities, in some cases even returning them to their abusers. They covered it up for DECADES to risk inflaming sensitivities and being seen as racist. Hard to believe or even comprehend, but true."

We saw this exact same thing in Sweden and Germany, where police reports were doctored and news deliberately omitted that rapists were Syrian migrants. It goes back to the San Bernardino neighbors reference also... the left has placed muslims at the top of the "victim hierarchy" which has made it politically incorrect to do anything but apologize and cover up for them when they commit crimes. Nobody is telling you to be suspicious of your Muslim friends and acquaintances, that is the stupidest strawman I've heard yet ITT. The people you deem "Islamaphobic" or "bigots" (aka the people with common sense that don't care about your victimhood hierarchy) don't want you to be suspicious of Muslims, they want you to to hold all people to the same standards. That's why I am criticizing the dumbass "Clock boy" narrative, and that's why I'm criticizing the portrayal of USA Mosque vandalism as an epidemic of "Islamaphobia". I'm not suggesting SJWs think we should cover up Muslims raping people, but I am suggesting they are complicit in creating such a backwards, regressive political atmosphere for such shameful cover ups to occur. That's why it is important to differentiate between narrative and reality.

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"I'm stupid and crazy, and there's so much wrong with my perspective that higher-minded people don't even know where to start on correcting me. I'm just that stupid and crazy."

Welcome to any TWW discussion with the SJW brigade.

They love to make it clear that you are stupid and they are smart, yet beyond that they don't seem capable of actually addressing anything.

[Edited on June 24, 2016 at 12:16 AM. Reason : .]

6/23/2016 11:57:21 PM

narrative? check.
SJW? check.
bot? check.

6/24/2016 12:22:43 AM

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"They love to make it clear that you are stupid and they are smart, yet beyond that they don't seem capable of actually addressing anything."

6/24/2016 12:37:08 AM

^^^I DID Google it. I found absolutely no evidence that neighbors were aware of pipe bombs next door.

And now you apparently think that, "She had seen them receiving multiple packages but did not want to racially profile them" somehow vindicates your point of view.

I had found that claim before; I discarded it as bullshit then.

I still discard it as bullshit now.

You specifically mentioned pipe bombs:

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"...which leads to the San Bernardino neighbor being too afraid to speak up. Wouldn't want to be "Islamaphobic" for reporting neighbors making pipebombs, would we?"

What I am asking you to do, dumbass, is provide evidence that neighbors were aware pipe bombs were being manufactured. Or, you know, just admit you're full of shit.

Oh wait, I see a UPS truck across the street. I better get off here and notify the FBI immediately.

[Edited on June 24, 2016 at 12:50 AM. Reason : ^]

6/24/2016 12:49:40 AM

Jebus you people still keep responding to him.

Make fun, sure, but don't pay him the respect of an actual retort.

6/24/2016 12:53:18 AM

^^ JCE's opinons arent grounded in facts, and he rejects any attempt to correct this... youre pretty much wasting your time trying to communicate with him on that basis.

I would try appealing to his fear instincts, since this is what primarily motivates racists.

[Edited on June 24, 2016 at 12:53 AM. Reason : ]

6/24/2016 12:53:32 AM

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"I would try not feed the troll."

ftfy

6/24/2016 12:54:56 AM

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"At this point, we're screwing over Asians, gays, women, Jews, and children just so we don't look Islamaphobic. It's absolutely absurd. And I know that dtownral guy is a troll, but I'm not crazy. I mean, even Canada has said that they won't be accepting single men from Syria. "

who is "we"? Americans? You do realize the UK and Germany are very, very different places than the US. In fact, there are studies that show that Muslims in the US are far more integrated here than anywhere in Europe and much more well-assimilated. The US also has a much different attitude and affinity for guns than other places in the world, which is precisely why mass shootings happen about every other day or so here, and not in Europe.

If you're afraid of Muslim extremism, you have some valid concerns, but you definitely need to recognize that your fears of the average American Muslim are pretty irrational and based on your own emotions, NOT anything logical or statistically valid/significant.

[Edited on June 24, 2016 at 1:07 AM. Reason : .]

6/24/2016 1:06:33 AM

^ I think BSPK understands that although there is some ambiguity... if you give her the benefit of the doubt while considering context, she seems to just be pointing out that there is a real threat of "white guilt" escalating to the point that people are ignoring clear warning signs based on things that have happened in Europe with Muslims.

This is a reasonable concern, but there's no evidence of that happening in the U.S. yet. If anything, Americans are more hypersensitive to brown-ish type of people expressing any deviation from white-American norms, including Italians doing math on an airplane.

There's no conflict in calling out racists and islamophobes while staying vigilant against islamic extremism and religious zealotry in general.

6/24/2016 1:27:58 AM

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"^^ JCE's opinons arent grounded in facts, and he rejects any attempt to correct this... youre pretty much wasting your time trying to communicate with him on that basis."

I'm not posting opinions on TWW, I'm posting criticisms. Criticisms of SJW bullshit. aka moron posts.

If your biased study ignores a key factor, and your only response to someone calling it out is "You're a dumb racist"... I think it is pretty clear you aren't capable of actually communicating based on facts.

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"Jebus you people still keep responding to him. Make fun, sure, but don't pay him the respect of an actual retort"

Synapse has a hard time discussing any of his SJW topics when he can't just quote someone saying the N-word 50 times.

[Edited on June 24, 2016 at 3:16 AM. Reason : .]

6/24/2016 3:04:29 AM

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"... I think it is pretty clear you aren't capable of actually communicating based on facts."

Kinda like you making unfounded claims about the San Bernardino neighbors ignoring evidence of pipe bombs, huh?

6/24/2016 3:14:27 AM

Cabbage, I apologize. I've become so accustomed to the SJWs here completely ignoring all facts/points/statements/reality that I haven't been as cautious with my verbiage... but it is a welcome change.

Right, the neighbors didn't physically see a pipebomb, that would be criminal negligence if they didn't report that. My point was they were suspicious (as they said) and didn't report it for fear of being Islamaphobic (as they said). The semantics honestly change nothing for my original point, that the Islamaphobic narrative has gone too far and done more harm than good.

My comment "Wouldn't want to be "Islamaphobic" for reporting neighbors making pipebombs, would we?" was a little bit too sarcastic and facetious, which I hope you can understand since the caliber of responses from these SJWs has been "Whatever, you're racist" for the past few threads. Again, they were suspicious and didn't act out of fear of profiling neighbors for being Muslim, which is the point I was making.

6/24/2016 3:24:05 AM

Fair enough, but I still don't understand what they could have reported them for. Too many deliveries? You know, a person could have a medical reason for lots of deliveries. But beyond that, suppose they DO actually report it. What then? I have a hard time believing a claim that "They're receiving a lot of packages" would actually turn something up. I could be wrong.


Anyway, I do see your point of view, though I disagree that it's a significant problem, and I apologize for the language that I've used toward you.

6/24/2016 5:07:48 AM

^ that's the main reason they didn't report them, they had no real information. The police can't really bust down someone's door because they're up late at night and give people dirty looks during the day.

Just like in Orlando, the gun store owner DID report him but there wasn't enough info to do anything.

6/24/2016 11:14:42 AM

JCE bot also makes a great Monday morning quarter back. Welcome to the 21st century everyone!

6/24/2016 12:52:16 PM

bttt

[Edited on October 5, 2017 at 12:48 PM. Reason : free JCE]

10/5/2017 12:47:50 PM

interesting

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/noor-salman-pulse-massacre-wrong_us_5ac29ebae4b04646b6454dc2

4/5/2018 10:22:40 AM

This was the worst mass shooting up until Las Vegas, and the shooter was not around to take everybody's vengeance. Prosecutors and the public were looking for a scapegoat. They found one in someone who seemingly should have known this person inside and out. This guy was a domestic abuser, no doubt, and this woman was probably afraid for her life, both from her husband and then from her interrogators.

This time though, you not only had your run-of-the-mill conservatives seeing brown skin and equating that to turrists, you also had civil rights people up in arms believing it was a hate crime, so yea, I guess prosecutors felt like someone had to pay.

This woman was right to have been let off the hook.

4/5/2018 10:50:13 AM

^^holy crap. The FBI prosecutors should get 14 months in jail each

[Edited on April 5, 2018 at 10:51 AM. Reason : H]

4/5/2018 10:50:28 AM

Yeah she's gonna get a giant settlement and every single person who worked for the prosecution/on the investigation should get fired. They won't, but they should.

I mean Jesus, the one investigator said they knew 2 days after it happened that neither the shooter or his wife had ever been near the pulse nightclub and she was in jail for over a year because they claimed she actively planned this shit. No wonder people hate America.

4/5/2018 2:05:30 PM

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"“The media missed the story,” Charles Swift, one of Salman’s lawyers said, “because they depended on the government to tell it to them.”"

4/5/2018 2:22:48 PM

The Intercept reported on this a month ago.

https://theintercept.com/2018/03/05/as-the-trial-of-omar-mateens-wife-begins-new-evidence-undermines-beliefs-about-the-pulse-massacre-including-motive/

FBI is scum.

[Edited on April 5, 2018 at 3:12 PM. Reason : .]

4/5/2018 3:11:29 PM

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"FBI is scum."

as is the media

[Edited on April 5, 2018 at 7:00 PM. Reason : but they go hand in hand]

4/5/2018 6:58:49 PM