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ncsufanalum
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Anybody following this in the N&O?

http://www.newsobserver.com

heres the good stuff: http://media2.newsobserver.com/smedia/2011/09/07/17/46/jW2r5.So.156.pdf

9/7/2011 7:52:54 PM

ncsuapex
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People still read that fish wrap and take it seriously?

9/7/2011 7:56:06 PM

Beethoven86
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She's a prosecutor? Yeah, she's a liar then.

[Edited on September 7, 2011 at 8:01 PM. Reason : ]

9/7/2011 8:01:13 PM

wolfpackgrrr
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I have a subscription but I'm canceling it because the lazy Korean ass that delivers my paper is always late or doesn't bother delivering it at all

These emails are pretty funny.

9/7/2011 8:02:03 PM

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"She's a prosecutor? Yeah, she's a liar then."


Do you feel differently about defense attorneys?

9/8/2011 11:47:29 AM

Beethoven86
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Yes I do, but I am highly likely biased in that account.

9/8/2011 1:19:11 PM

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"I believe I have been unfairly portryed in this paper and for th elife of me I do not understand why."

9/8/2011 1:43:53 PM

raiden
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Well she sounds very unintelligent in her emails. She can't even spell properly. USE THE DAMN SPELLCHECK!!

9/8/2011 1:55:34 PM

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"Anybody following this in the N&O?

http://www.newsobserver.com

heres the good stuff: http://media2.newsobserver.com/smedia/2011/09/07/17/46/jW2r5.So.156.pdf"


Can you really not link to a story-specific html page?

9/8/2011 2:52:18 PM

Beethoven86
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http://www.newsobserver.com/twistedtruth

9/8/2011 3:12:36 PM

BigHitSunday
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"People still read that fish wrap and take it seriously"


hahahahha yessss, quote brings back memories of REAL seafood markets down east

9/8/2011 3:58:01 PM

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Reading some of that shit is downright painful - how someone gets into a position like that without even knowing how to proofread is beyond me. Furthermore, it is both sad and slightly amusing that her first letter goes straight to "Wah, wah, I'm black and I'm a woman, that's why this lady is picking on me". Combined with what appears to be either complete incompetence and/or gross negligence in far too many instances, I really don't see how this person is fit to do their job. It is Durham, however, so I am not terribly shocked.

9/9/2011 8:01:52 AM

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[Edited on September 9, 2011 at 9:29 AM. Reason : dp]

9/9/2011 9:29:01 AM

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"She's a prosecutor? Yeah, she's a liar then."


lol lemme guess, a defense attorney?

9/9/2011 9:29:22 AM

BobbyDigital
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"She's a prosecutor lawyer? Yeah, she's a liar then."


Lawyers are slightly more slimy and unscrupulous as a whole than investment bankers, winning the top spot in "profession that attracts the shittiest human beings."

9/9/2011 9:32:32 AM

mrfrog

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lol

http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/09/05/1462653/misstatements-in-court-questions.html

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"Cline declined to question Yearwood. Moments later, she told the judge, "There is not one iota of evidence that says he didn't do it.""


Something seems wrong with this argument....

9/9/2011 10:15:11 AM

Hey_McFly
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""I am not experienced with dealing wit the press""


no shit. that email was as professional as a facebook post.

why the hell wouldn't you use spell check if an email is on public record (regarding your competency) and you REQUEST it be published by the paper

9/9/2011 10:16:19 AM

Beethoven86
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"Lawyers are slightly more slimy and unscrupulous as a whole than investment bankers, winning the top spot in "profession that attracts the shittiest human beings."
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See, that's funny, because lawyers are bound by a more strict code of conduct than anything most professions could even imagine.

And everyone hates on attorneys until they need one.

[Edited on September 9, 2011 at 10:47 AM. Reason : ]

9/9/2011 10:46:38 AM

BobbyDigital
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I hate that our country is structured so that you are forced to need them for shit that doesn't involve court.

fuck the lawyer fee i had to pay just to buy a goddamn house.

9/12/2011 9:26:11 PM

ThatGoodLock
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as a future lawyer, i wouldn't buy a house without another lawyer

that's not a small purchase, i think the fee was probably worth it

imagine if you tried to bring a lawyer in before you signed a car purchase, they would laugh at you

9/12/2011 9:28:11 PM

BobbyDigital
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"i think the fee was probably worth it"


educate me then.

9/12/2011 9:30:09 PM

CharlesHF
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"educate me then."

I read a story on another message board (can't find it now, drat) where a guy was saying that hiring a lawyer for his home-buying experience saved him a ton of money.

The lawyer was looking over things during the process..."Sign this, sign this, sign this....don't sign that!!" Something was slipped in that would have cost the buyer lots of money. Way more than the fee he paid the lawyer.

Wish I could find that story, I probably butchered it.

9/12/2011 9:33:34 PM

ThatGoodLock
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^^ i'm going to school for 3 years to educate you

9/12/2011 9:43:49 PM

Beethoven86
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Did someone force you to use an attorney? Or did you choose to? You could get the education yourself, so that you understand the ins and outs of the legal world, or you can pay someone to do it. You could learn how to do a title search, how to check zoning laws, how to see if there are any restrictive covenants on your new plot of land, then you could take the time to go do those things. It's research, and it involves time, and it protects you if someone comes up in a few months and says "this is actually my land, and they had no right to sell it to you."

I don't gripe when I need a doctor and I have to pay them, because that's what they're trained in. Or if I need an engineer or architect to design me a house, because I'm not going to do it myself.

You are never forced to have an attorney, it's your choice. Next time, do it on your own, and see where that gets you.

For buying a house:
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"Buying a home will probably be the largest and most significant purchase you will make in your life. It also involves the law of real property, which is unique and raises special issues of practice, and problems not present in other transactions. A real estate lawyer is trained to deal with these problems and has the most experience to deal with them. Some states certify lawyers as "Real Property Specialists" as a result.

In the typical home purchase, the seller enters into a brokerage contract with a real estate agent, usually in writing. When the broker finds a potential buyer, negotiations are conducted through the broker, who most often acts as an intermediary. Once an informal agreement is reached, buyer and seller enter into a formal written contract for the sale, the purchase agreement. The buyer then obtains a commitment for financing. Title is searched to satisfy the lender and the buyer. Finally, the property is transferred from the seller to the buyer, and the seller receives the purchase price bargained for in the contract. This seems simple, but without a lawyer, the consequences may be more disastrous than purchasing a car that turns out to be a lemon, or a stock investment that was unwise.

A lawyer can help you avoid some common problems with a home purchase or sale. For example, a seller may sign a brokerage agreement that does not deal with a number of legal problems. This happens quite often; realtors often use standard forms, expecting that they will cover all circumstances or will be easily customizable for unusual circumstances.

In the absence of an agreement to the contrary, the seller may become liable to pay a brokerage commission even if a sale does not occur, or to pay more than one brokerage commission. If the agreement allows the seller the right to negotiate on his or her own behalf, for example, you may avoid this problem. A lawyer can explain the effect of multiple listings. He or she can negotiate the realtor's rights if the seller withdraws the property from the market, or can't deliver good marketable title.

The seller should have the advice and guidance of an attorney with respect to a brokerage agreement. Even if the agreement is a standard form, its terms should be explained to the seller and revised, if necessary. An attorney should also determine if the agreement was properly signed.

Even if a lawyer is not needed during the course of negotiations, the buyer and seller each may have to consult with a lawyer to answer important questions, such as the tax consequences of the transaction. To a seller, the tax consequences may be of critical importance. For example, the income tax consequences of a sale, particularly if the seller makes a large profit, may be considerable. An attorney can advise whether the seller can take advantage of tax provisions allowing for exclusion of capital gains in certain circumstances.

The purchase agreement is the single most important document in the transaction. Although standard printed forms are useful, a lawyer is helpful in explaining the form and making changes and additions to reflect the buyer's and the seller's desires. There are many issues that may need to be addressed in the purchase agreement; below are some common examples:

* If the property has been altered or there has been an addition to the property, was it done lawfully?
* If the buyer has plans to change the property, may what is planned for the property be done lawfully?
* What happens if a buyer has an engineer or architect inspect the property and termites, asbestos, radon, or lead-based paint is found?
* What if the property is found to contain hazardous waste?
* What are the legal consequences if the closing does not take place, and what happens to the down payment? This question raises related questions: Will the down payment be held in escrow by a lawyer in accordance with appropriately worded escrow instructions? How is payment to be made? Is the closing appropriately conditioned upon the buyer obtaining financing?

Most buyers finance a substantial portion of the purchase price for a home with a mortgage loan from a lending institution. The purchase agreement should contain a carefully worded provision that it is subject to the buyer's obtaining a commitment for financing.

Again, it is important to remember that printed contract forms are generally inadequate to incorporate the real understanding of the buyer and seller without significant changes. In addition, there are many kinds of mortgages that may be available. Mortgage loan commitments and mortgage loan documents are complex. Lawyers can review and explain the importance of these various documents.

After the purchase agreement is signed, it is necessary to establish the state of the seller's title to the property to the buyer's - and the finance institution's - satisfaction. Generally, a title search is ordered from an abstract or title insurance company. In some states, and in outlying areas of others, title insurance is not typical. In such cases an attorney is essential to review the status of title and render an opinion of title in lieu of a title policy.

Assuming you are in an area where title insurance is customary, an attorney can help review the title search and explain the title exceptions as to what is not insured, and determine whether the legal description is correct and whether there are problems with adjoining owners or prior owners. He or she can also explain the effect of easements and agreements or restrictions imposed by a prior owner, and whether there are any legal restrictions which will impair your ability to sell the property.

The title search does not tell the buyer or seller anything about existing and prospective zoning. A lawyer can explain whether zoning prohibits a two-family home, or whether planned improvements violate zoning ordinances.

The closing is the most important event in the purchase and sale transaction. The deed and other closing papers must be prepared. Title passes from seller to buyer, who pays the balance of the purchase price. Frequently, this balance is paid in part from the proceeds of a mortgage loan. A closing statement should be prepared prior to the closing indicating the debits and credits to the buyer and seller. An attorney is helpful in explaining the nature, amount, and fairness of closing costs. The deed and mortgage instruments are signed, and an attorney can be assure that these documents are appropriately executed and explained to the various parties.

The closing process can be confusing and complex to the buyer and seller. Those present at the closing often include the buyer and seller, their respective attorneys, the title closer (representative of the title company), an attorney for any lending institution, and the real estate broker. There may also be last minute disputes about delivering possession and personal property or the adjustment of various costs, such as fuel and taxes. If you are the only person there without a lawyer, your rights may be at risk.

Perhaps the most important reason to be represented by an attorney is conflicting interests of the parties. Throughout the process, the buyer's and seller's interests can be at odds with each other, and even with those of professionals involved in the sale. The broker generally serves the seller, and the lender is obtained by the buyer. Both want to see the deal go through, since that is how they will get paid. Neither can provide legal counsel. The respective lawyers for the buyer and seller will serve only their own clients' best interests. Seeking the advice of a lawyer is a very good idea from the time you decide to sell or to buy a home until the actual closing."


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[Edited on September 12, 2011 at 9:51 PM. Reason : ]

9/12/2011 9:47:58 PM

MinkaGrl01
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bump

1/27/2012 4:44:36 PM

Beethoven86
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You are awesome. Thank you.

And Tracey Cline has been suspended as Durham DA: http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/01/27/1811589/judge-suspends-cline-as-durham.html

1/27/2012 4:46:08 PM

wolfpackgrrr
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About time. Bitch was crazy to the max.

1/27/2012 4:55:49 PM

Str8BacardiL
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news and disturber said she is melting


meeeeeeeeeellllllllllllttttttttttiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnngggggg

like the wicked witch with water on her

1/27/2012 6:25:43 PM

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She may very well be a lunatic, but there are judges out there are just as bonkers and rule how they feel.

1/27/2012 7:59:08 PM

BobbyDigital
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^ yup, there was a pretty scary This American Life podcast that did an investigative report on Judge Amanda Williams in GA, who had done some really fucked up things unchecked for several years. Only after the report did any higher authority bother to look into it.

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/blog/2011/11/judge-amanda-williams-faces-charges

1/28/2012 9:38:46 AM

Kurtis636
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http://www.theagitator.com/2012/01/02/the-2011-worst-prosecutor-of-the-year-award/

1/28/2012 11:02:19 AM

Beethoven86
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Bump for a verdict today in her removal hearing. Judge Hobgood is issuing the decision this morning.

Watch live here: http://www.wral.com/news/video/10801442/#/vid10801442

3/2/2012 10:24:40 AM

Beethoven86
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AND she was fired.

3/2/2012 10:28:56 AM

MinkaGrl01
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3/2/2012 10:39:33 AM

Beethoven86
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No mention of prosecutorial immunity. She might get her ass sued.

3/2/2012 10:45:41 AM

ncsufanalum
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Its about time, maybe now we can get some justice for the Duke Lacrosse accusser who stabbed and killed her most recent boyfriend?

3/2/2012 10:55:05 AM

Str8BacardiL
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SHES MEEEEELLLTIIINNNG

3/13/2012 9:50:34 AM

wolfpackgrrr
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So which clown shoes will they get to replace her? Two bad DAs in a row doesn't speak well for the justice system of Durham County.

3/13/2012 10:19:31 AM

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