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"chang is married?"

back in season 1 had some issues with his wife, might be divorced now I don't remember if they ever stated this specifically

[Edited on February 14, 2011 at 12:56 PM. Reason : ]

2/14/2011 12:56:17 PM

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"I am! he used to be a confused old man who meant well but was kind of a dick (like the episode where he pantses Shirley) now he's just a dick "

yep, he was a lot funnier when he was trying to fit in with the younger folks in the group and his disconnection with the present day and general eccentricity led to comedy. but now, like you said, he's just a dick. and not even a funny dick.

[Edited on February 14, 2011 at 1:00 PM. Reason : I don't know if the blame falls on Chase or the writers though.]

2/14/2011 1:00:24 PM

^its probably hard to use chevy to be funny without having him do the either Clark Griswold or his caddyshack/fletch type characters

Like I said though hes the weakest part of the show and they should just kill him off and make chang a full member of the group

He can do everything pierce can humor wise except the old person jokes which usually fall flat anyway

2/14/2011 2:50:12 PM

^ the black chick is pretty bad as well.

This show needs more Trudy Campbell.

2/14/2011 3:15:01 PM

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"Like I said though hes the weakest part of the show and they should just kill him off and make chang a full member of the group"

There's already too much Ken Jeong in the show, he works best in small doses.

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"the black chick is pretty bad as well."

I think she's a nice counterpoint to the less grounded characters like Abed and Troy.

2/14/2011 3:47:27 PM

I wouldn't write Pierce out of the show just yet, the study group has a nice balance right now.
I'm willing to chalk up his acting like a dick recently to the pain meds.

Maybe this week we'll see a chang(e).

2/14/2011 4:27:30 PM

i hate pierce. they can get rid of him imo

2/14/2011 4:34:58 PM

Such sentiments are rarely effective

I said the same thing about you years ago

2/14/2011 5:11:18 PM

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"its probably hard to use chevy to be funny without having him do the either Clark Griswold or his caddyshack/fletch type characters"

Wait, what? Chevy Chase was a comedic superstar long before any of those characters existed.

2/14/2011 5:19:54 PM

But he's damn near 70. Ask Pacino to channel Michael Corleone or Tony Montana and he'd struggle too.

2/14/2011 5:32:43 PM

i love pierce at first, but he has weakened a bit lately

i actually liked him in the d&d ep.

2/14/2011 7:11:54 PM

i feel pierce pretty accurately portrays chevy chase's real personality and how he fits in with the cast dynamic. he's a bit of a self-centered dick in real life.

2/14/2011 10:52:45 PM

Chevy Chase, overall brings a lot to the dynamic of the group when he is working on fitting in and being "Popular" .

That being said, Troy and Abed eclipse all the other characters.

2/15/2011 9:02:47 AM

Levar Burton is on tonight's episode, should be a good one.

2/16/2011 3:25:18 AM

tonight's!?

2/16/2011 7:50:29 AM

tomorrow night's, i kept thinking yesterday was wednesday for some reason

2/16/2011 11:53:56 AM

lol at Levar Burton

2/17/2011 8:13:32 PM

haha troy I'm dyin here

2/17/2011 8:14:38 PM

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"More fish for Kunta"

2/17/2011 8:32:45 PM

more fish for Kunta Kinte!

2/17/2011 8:34:14 PM

damn

2/17/2011 8:37:48 PM

Funny that Community and The Office would imitate one another's shticks on the same night

2/17/2011 11:54:42 PM

I haven't seen tonight's episode of The Office, but I'm like 90% sure that Community does a mockumentary better than The Office does a pop culture parody.

2/18/2011 1:28:16 AM

"If one of us dies, we stage it to look like a suicide caused by the unjust cancellation of Firefly."

GENIUS

So hopefully this ep has allayed your fears of Pierce turning into a complete dick... I assume next episode he'll be back to his old, slightly dickish ways.

2/18/2011 9:10:34 AM

I'm not entirely sure I understand what was going on with Troy and Levar Burton, but it was hilarious.

2/18/2011 3:59:27 PM

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"I'm not entirely sure I understand what was going on with Troy and Levar Burton, but it was hilarious."

Fandom.

2/18/2011 4:28:22 PM

paraphrasing...

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"I TOLD PIERCE I NEVER WANTED TO MEET LAVAR BURTON!!! I ONLY WANTED A PICTURE!! YOU CAN'T DISAPPOINT A PICTURE"

2/18/2011 4:33:53 PM

Yeah, it was that scene that left me a bit confused. I guess I somehow missed this line

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"YOU CAN'T DISAPPOINT A PICTURE"

2/18/2011 4:38:01 PM

2/18/2011 4:48:03 PM

http://www.nbc.com/community/video/ep-216-you-cant-disappoint-a-picture/1296275

2/18/2011 5:17:52 PM

How did I miss Celebrity Pharmacology? I was all excited to get a double dose this week, but it was meh for Community. Still, better than the majority of TV out there though.

2/18/2011 9:44:58 PM

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"So hopefully this ep has allayed your fears of Pierce turning into a complete dick... I assume next episode he'll be back to his old, slightly dickish ways. "

No. If anything it makes it worse....

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"I talked about Pierce's troubling behavior in the D&D episode, and when we got the painkiller addiction story last week, I assumed that was how the series would deal with it: all of Pierce's recent thuggishness would be written off as a result of the pills and he would go back to being the offensive but not malicious character he'd been before. When the Russo brothers spoke about this episode with Vulture's Joe Adalian, they said one of its goals was to help redeem Pierce. If anything, I think the opposite happened. Pierce was even more evil here than he was in the D&D episode, or the trampoline episode, or at pretty much any time in the life of the series. What he did to the group in general and Jeff in particular was pretty unforgivable, and it was done without the aid of pain pills. This was an unclouded Pierce doing this, and if we're supposed to take the emotions of the study group seriously - which this series, and this episode in particular, asks us to do - then this would lead to a permanent shunning. Even Pierce's explanation for why he did it shouldn't help. It makes sense from Pierce's point of view, because he's so oblivious to his own flaws that he thinks he's been treated unfairly by the others all this time. But this isn't like Jerry on "Parks and Recreation" being unfairly turned into the butt of everyone's jokes and scorn(*). Pierce is treated the way he is because of how he treats others, going all the way back to the pilot. He wasn't originally a bad guy, but he was definitely someone who could be extremely difficult to be around, to the point where it wasn't unreasonable for the others to avoid him and/or joke about him behind his back. Jeff says that Pierce's behavior here doesn't disprove the theory that he's a joke, but it's actually worse. The only way I could see him regaining the others' affection and approval would be if he acted out what's written in Royal Tenenbaum's epitaph - and, of course, he'd be dead at the end of that. "

2/21/2011 9:59:36 AM

Troy might be the most entertaining character on television right now.

2/21/2011 10:03:35 AM

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"That being said, Troy and Abed eclipse all the other characters."

I can't stand those characters, which is probably the reason this show is hit or miss with me. I mean all that one character does is tilt his head sideways like a confused dog and have a blank stare.

2/21/2011 10:08:21 AM

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"Troy might be the most entertaining character on television right now."

Truth.

Donald Glover is phenomenal.

2/21/2011 10:33:33 AM

Yeah, Donald Glover's stand up special was on Comedy Central on Friday and was pretty good. Not the funniest guy I've seen, but definitely worth watching and it gave me a little more appreciation for his work on Community. I also didn't know until then that he used to write for 30 Rock.

2/21/2011 10:48:51 AM

pop POP

2/24/2011 8:28:46 PM

Notches

2/24/2011 9:14:12 PM

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"Notches"

i lol'd

2/24/2011 10:42:37 PM

Looking forward to the screencaps of the election coverage, between the fast candidate summaries and the news ticker I'm sure there are plenty of easter eggs.

Still the best show on Thursdays. And that says a lot, considering how much I like the other comedies that night.

2/25/2011 9:17:30 AM

This ep had some funny moments, but Jeff's behavior was way out-of-character. I dont' feel like he would have put so much effort into something so petty, or have an angry fit on stage, or sulk on the floor of a utility room. Then, without any prompting, he stops being emo and gracefully admits being at fault.

Also, Britta is becoming a parody of herself. She's become angrier, less intelligent, and more of a pariah. Again, an episode where all her moments are about her being a ridiculous contrarian.

IMO this ep indicates a marked decline in the writing quality all-around. I hope this doesn't become a trend.

2/25/2011 9:48:37 AM

You won't find any shelter suggesting that community isn't anything but The Most Amazing Show Ever around these parts.

2/25/2011 9:53:11 AM

Are you trying to win some dickhead wet blanket award or what

2/25/2011 9:56:27 AM

Are you trying to win some Community Defender of the Year award? I didn't realize this was a Community circlejerk thread.

2/25/2011 9:59:57 AM

Madman is the AT&T of people.

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"but Jeff's behavior was way out-of-character. I dont' feel like he would have put so much effort into something so petty, or have an angry fit on stage, or sulk on the floor of a utility room."

Uh... have you not been watching the same show as we have? They've definitely established that Jeff puts way too much effort into petty things after being challenged and then responding angrily: pottery vs. Rich, playing pool in short shorts, etc.

I mean, you could say that the sulking was out of place, but he breaks down in the pottery class as well when thinking about his mother.

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"Also, Britta is becoming a parody of herself. She's become angrier, less intelligent, and more of a pariah. Again, an episode where all her moments are about her being a ridiculous contrarian."

She's the same character she's always been. She's always been angry, always been pretty dumb, always ranted about some social injustice, etc. All that's changed is that they're actually responding to it with a "shut up", which is exactly what would happen after spending a year and a half with a person like that.

2/25/2011 10:30:49 AM

Jeff and Britta were the normal, "aloof observer" characters at one point Their reaction to the ridiculousness coming from characters like Pierce and Abed is what made them funny. They were Seinfeld's straight man to Cramer's lunatic. Granted, they had their understated quirks, but take away the subtlety and the quirks aren't as funny.

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"they're actually responding to it with a "shut up", which is exactly what would happen after spending a year and a half with a person like that."

Sure, but how much longer is this going to be funny? It has become predictable.

I still love this show. I just don't like whats happening to those two characters and in this ep there were a lot of moments where I thought "that could have been funnier if they had done it a little differently".

2/25/2011 11:35:12 AM

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"Jeff and Britta were the normal, "aloof observer" characters at one point Their reaction to the ridiculousness coming from characters like Pierce and Abed is what made them funny. They were Seinfeld's straight man to Cramer's lunatic. Granted, they had their understated quirks, but take away the subtlety and the quirks aren't as funny."

This is called "character growth". You can't have them still be "aloof observers" when they're involved in all the shenanigans.

There have been numerous episodes where they show Jeff's progression from "guy who has to go to Greendale" to "guy who legitimately enjoys being there and with these people".

Next thing you're going to do is bitch that Jeff doesn't try to sleep with Britta every 5 minutes.

2/25/2011 1:38:07 PM

"Actually, it's called Character Growth, you pedant."

2/25/2011 1:55:31 PM

POP! POP!

2/25/2011 2:04:48 PM

This definitely wasn't one of the best episodes they've done (the electioneering stuff felt pretty similar to the territory they covered in the debate episode), but it was still hilarious...it seems like part of the problem is they've set the bar so high that people bitch and moan when an episode isn't flawless.

2/25/2011 2:15:54 PM