Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Rice Admits "Thousands" Of Errors In Iraq" |
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=rice%20thousands&btnG=Google+Search&sa=N&tab=wn
Actually, that statement is another one of those errors, she now saying that she didnt mean it literaly.
I guess it was meant to be interpreted allegorically.
[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 3:10 AM. Reason : rhsd]4/2/2006 3:08:31 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
It's people like you, so willing to believe anything negative about the opposition, that have forced politicians into constantly splitting cunt-hairs like they currently do.
I'm far from an administration nut-cupper, but "thousands" is a commonly used figure of speech.
[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 3:10 AM. Reason : .] 4/2/2006 3:10:23 AM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
youre thousand wrong. 4/2/2006 3:12:59 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
I mean come on man
"Oh Jesus I closed my browser by accident, I must have done that thousands of times"
"dude this is like the thousandth time I've stubbed my toe"
"Haha there were like thousands of bugs in my computer program I tried to write today"
Stop creating issues where there aren't any. This nit-picky bullshit gives me an ulcer. 4/2/2006 3:19:29 AM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
yea who cares about iraq anyway. its being handled just fine. 4/2/2006 3:24:07 AM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
You're talking about a different situation, though.
Someone might interpret these differently:
"There must be thousands of dollars in that safe."
"There were thousands of people killed in Iraq." 4/2/2006 3:24:46 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Nobody's making that argument. ^^
[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 3:25 AM. Reason : .] 4/2/2006 3:24:51 AM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
it aint about the facts, its about the truth 4/2/2006 3:27:43 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
thousands? ok. lets count:
2300+ us troops dead 50000+ iraqis dead
sounds like thousands to me.
with the country on the verge of religious civil war, and a sufficiently emboldened Iran is developing nukes so they can preemptively strike dutch cartoonists.
US foriegn policy: "Yeehaw motherfuckers! Bring it on!" 4/2/2006 3:33:54 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
and dont forget the original mistake:
Mistake #1: believing anything the Bush Administration ever said about Iraq. 4/2/2006 4:27:51 AM |
supercalo All American 2042 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It's people like you, so willing to believe anything negative about the opposition, that have forced politicians into constantly splitting cunt-hairs like they currently do.
I'm far from an administration nut-cupper, but "thousands" is a commonly used figure of speech. " |
I just popped into this thread and this was the very first thing I read. Needless to say, I can add the word "nut-cupper" to my vocabulary now. Thank you McDanger. 4/2/2006 4:33:23 AM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=398261 BUCKET. 4/2/2006 11:07:28 AM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I mean come on man
"Oh Jesus I closed my browser by accident, I must have done that thousands of times"
"dude this is like the thousandth time I've stubbed my toe"
"Haha there were like thousands of bugs in my computer program I tried to write today"
Stop creating issues where there aren't any. This nit-picky bullshit gives me an ulcer.
" | i agree4/2/2006 11:15:36 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "2300+ us troops dead 50000+ iraqis dead" |
I guess we made millions of mistakes in WWII4/2/2006 1:22:48 PM |
Maverick All American 11175 Posts user info edit post |
Must have been a slow news day. They're really stretching on this one.
"Thousands of errors"--so do they have a list of errors all lined out that numbers in the thousands?
Or maybe, each person in the theater makes one small mistake each day (wakes up late, makes a wrong turn on a convoy, has to do a go-around while landing, writes down the wrong frequency, etc), so I guess technically there'd be like several hundred thousand "tactical errors" each day.
I guess if every After-action review for every single mission comes up with about 10 or so "improves" (which is normal for a larger operation), it could be. But, then again, I fail to see how that's shocking.
The quote in context:
Quote : | ""I know we've made tactical errors, thousands of them, I'm sure,"" |
[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 1:27 PM. Reason : .]4/2/2006 1:24:57 PM |
TGD All American 8912 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I guess we made millions of mistakes in WWII" |
4/2/2006 1:28:58 PM |
eraser All American 6733 Posts user info edit post |
^ but we won WWII 4/2/2006 1:39:04 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Yes and how long was the unrest in Germany after the end of the war?
Did Germany have foreign fighters streaming over the border after the war was over?
Can we apply some critical thinking skills please?
I don't particularly agree with the fucking war in Iraq either, but let's try to make a decently structured agrument for the love of God. 4/2/2006 1:41:50 PM |
RevoltNow All American 2640 Posts user info edit post |
no one challenged the premise of world war II. which makes the whole analogy useless.
(im sure there were some and support was probably not 100%, but you get the point) 4/2/2006 1:49:37 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
You just made a statement
Then notified us of why it's not valid
Then asked us to ignore that
Is this the kind of techniques they teach you in Poly Sci?
[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 1:53 PM. Reason : .] 4/2/2006 1:52:45 PM |
RevoltNow All American 2640 Posts user info edit post |
what is the level of support for the war right now? what was the level of support for the war when we invaded?
what was the support for ww2? if 90% of the country supported it the entire time (and i bet that the number is higher than that) then i feel alright saying that no one challenged it. you certainly didnt have half the country saying "we were lied to" 4/2/2006 1:59:13 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Nobody wants to have the conventional military in an extended guerilla war.
The differences here are so huge that there is practically no comparison between the two. There's no definate end to a war where foreign fighters continually stream over the border (and either we can't or won't do much about it).
If I really have to go into the differences, I can. The only reason why I drew a comparison is because the number of casualties can hardly be regarded as a "mistake". Perhaps the reason behind the casualties occuring is, but listing them as reason in themselves is sensationalist.
[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 2:05 PM. Reason : .] 4/2/2006 2:03:07 PM |
RevoltNow All American 2640 Posts user info edit post |
did you think that maybe the "thousands" of errors didnt refer to the deaths but rather to actual errors? 4/2/2006 2:10:44 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
why is this still being talked about?
she meant "a lot"
we know that.. a lot of mistakes were made
i glad they're at least able to admit that
[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 2:13 PM. Reason : .] 4/2/2006 2:13:24 PM |
RevoltNow All American 2640 Posts user info edit post |
some of the mistakes we made:
but then again, she didnt mean that we had made strategic mistakes. 4/2/2006 2:18:11 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Oh
One of the people that uses the modern world as justification
What's next, a daily show transcript?
You can't be fucking serious. 4/2/2006 2:19:50 PM |
RevoltNow All American 2640 Posts user info edit post |
i just found it amusing.
would you rather i go get fox news transcripts with quotes that have since been proved wrong? or are you one of those fox viewers that thinks sadaam used weapons of mass destruction on our troops? 4/2/2006 2:30:13 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not even a republican you fucking ninny
I don't watch fox news
I don't vote for republicans
Way to fucking assume, that because I don't agree with your shitty, asinine arguments that I'm from the opposition 4/2/2006 2:31:59 PM |
RevoltNow All American 2640 Posts user info edit post |
so lets go back to the argument.
the administration made thousands of mistakes in iraq. rice was wrong when she said they were only tactical. 4/2/2006 2:35:49 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, let's
Quote : | "why is this still being talked about?
she meant "a lot"
we know that.. a lot of mistakes were made
i glad they're at least able to admit that" |
4/2/2006 2:44:13 PM |
RevoltNow All American 2640 Posts user info edit post |
she said tactical. meaning blowing up the wrong building. of course mistakes like that are going to be made.
but she said there were no strategic decisions. meaning we were correct in our assertion that us troops would be greeted with cheering crowds and that we would be gone within a few months. 4/2/2006 4:05:06 PM |
supercalo All American 2042 Posts user info edit post |
Not entirely...
I dont mean to play the armchair general here, but aren't they also resposible for what happens in the field in that policy of combat, security, and civil interaction is a basis of overall strategic decisions in this type of war?
[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 4:12 PM. Reason : tactics = strategy?] 4/2/2006 4:11:10 PM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "no one challenged the premise of world war II. which makes the whole analogy useless." |
that's actually totally untrue; there were plenty of people who challenged the premise of wwii. not that that changes anything in this thread, but i thought i should point it out4/2/2006 5:25:49 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
How cute! Admitting tactical mistakes to appear humble when the administration is really anything but. Aww... 4/2/2006 5:32:45 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
im trying to remember what dane cook said about exaggerating 4/2/2006 5:34:47 PM |