^Yes....John Wall would have been a #1 draft pick before ever stepping foot on KY's campus. He was that good. That is absolutely the exception and not the rule.

[Edited on December 20, 2010 at 12:25 AM. Reason : And John Henson has turned into a pretty good player...it takes time]

[Edited on December 20, 2010 at 12:28 AM. Reason : And yes they should do away with the 1 yr out of high school rule but thats a whole other argument]

12/20/2010 12:25:05 AM

this CLASS was the exception to our rule - a highly ranked class that was unprecedented since the days of jimmy v.

same old shit, just more stars - at what point do we blame the management. We can be a lot like the unc fans who think butch is untouchable just because he recruits thugs well. We recruited well, and look foolish - I will not stand for the double standard - butch and sid should be on the same bus out of nc.

[Edited on December 20, 2010 at 12:26 AM. Reason : ^precisely why college bb is bullshit. Yall keep funneling money into that, and I'll keep laughing.]

12/20/2010 12:25:07 AM

Agreed about Butch, haha...I'll give Sid till the end of the year before I make a judgement. But it's hard to believe that his seat is not getting warm.

12/20/2010 12:26:57 AM

well, right now sid has his job b/c of the recruiting, eerily similar to butch davis (although sid is not under ncaa investigation).

How long is ncs going to give a 4th year coach a free pass due to "what could be"?

I hope that ncs is not retarded like unc, and lets results speak for themselves. If Sid recruits well, but underachieves - that is a COACHING ISSUE, and let's get someone who can rock the house. I hope sid can right this ship, but im pretty sick of moral victories. Let's beat a major conference team and see what's up - this team has not defeated any team in what I consider division one.

12/20/2010 12:33:09 AM

haha. John Wall was a #1 pick after his freshman season. Therfore, every good freshman should be a #1 pick after their freshman season (or hs season). Or at least a 1st rounder.

12/20/2010 10:48:56 AM

Not that our guys are Top 10 players but Scout.com's Top 10 lists how have been remarkably accurate in corresponding to the top freshmen..

Leslie was 11th in the class -- I don't think it's a stretch to say every player ahead of him eligible to play has been better...

[Edited on December 20, 2010 at 11:14 AM. Reason : X]

12/20/2010 11:12:25 AM

saw this on another site...

" Leslie's offensive rating is 83.9.

That's so low that he's not in the the top 73 ACC players.

He has by far the worst offensive rating on NCSU. The second worse is DeShawn Painter at 94.5. Duke has no players with offensive ratings below 99. Barnes' offensive rating is 99.8, and even Larry Drew's (worst on UNC) is 90.5."

12/20/2010 11:18:49 AM

He hasn't been very consistent with his shooting.

46% FGs
50% FTs
14% 3Ps

But he's averaging 10 pts, 7 rbs in 23 mpg.

12/20/2010 11:44:41 AM

* 39.5% fg

12/20/2010 11:50:25 AM

oh yeah, i guess my #s were from before the arizona game.

also dropped to 48% FTs.

12/20/2010 11:53:00 AM

12/20/2010 6:24:53 PM

ACC Rookie of the Week again.

I think that was his 2nd time, after he shared it with someone in the first week?

and i know harrow has earned it at least once too. has brown? i can't find a list

12/27/2010 9:50:06 PM

I am paranoid type of person, and already I wonder if any of the frosh trio may want to transfer (cuz this is NC State). Is there any reason to worry about that?

12/29/2010 1:02:41 PM

why the fuck would they transfer and lose a year if they all have NBA aspirations


maybe if sid is let go, but then I doubt it

12/29/2010 1:03:34 PM

OK

12/29/2010 1:04:24 PM

There are few, if any, defections after a coaching change. NBA talent may look more toward leaving but with the CBA concerns and the rawness of the current trio, I wouldn't sweat it.

12/29/2010 2:34:12 PM

CJ and RH combined for 36

1/5/2011 9:39:36 PM

CJL earns ROW for the third time. I think he's really starting to get it.

http://www.gopack.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/011011aab.html

1/11/2011 11:15:32 AM

CJ Leslie goes for 22 and 10 tonight...WATCH.

1/11/2011 12:20:26 PM

C.J. Leslie Early Entry Bad Decision-o-meter update

1/26/2011 9:53:36 AM

With the way he's been playing, I can't possibly see that he'd get drafted.

1/26/2011 12:03:50 PM

That's the point

If you've been watching him play, you'd realize he isn't prone to making good decions

[Edited on January 26, 2011 at 12:06 PM. Reason : And he'll get drafted, no doubt. Just not in the lottery.]

1/26/2011 12:06:04 PM

Maybe I am misunderstanding the meter....

1/26/2011 12:14:42 PM

Quote :

"Bad Decision-o-meter"

1/26/2011 2:07:03 PM

Quote :

"That's the point If you've been watching him play, you'd realize he isn't prone to making good decions"

hahaha

1/26/2011 2:15:06 PM

yeah lol good one ernie

1/26/2011 5:25:37 PM

He's doing fine. Nothing about his performance is atypical for a freshman big, even one with sure NBA talent.

He will end up on a roster, it will just take him a few years to crack a starting line up. Same trajectory as JJ Hickson. Think JJ Hickson regrets going to the NBA? I think saying or going will be equivalent for him (Obviously want him to stay).

1/26/2011 5:59:14 PM

JJ was playing much better than CJ is at this point in the season. Wasn't he?

1/26/2011 6:08:22 PM

Actually, he was a little better. JJ faded in ACC play, as well. JJ also had a better body for ACC play, though.


9 straight losses to close out that season...

[Edited on January 26, 2011 at 6:12 PM. Reason : .]

1/26/2011 6:09:56 PM

^ lol, that reminds me of http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/152/year/2008/north-carolina-state-wolfpack

at about clemson i bet one of my roommates that we wouldn't win another game all year. that was a bittersweet $5.

1/26/2011 7:13:29 PM

ha UNC score might be worse this year.

1/26/2011 7:14:30 PM

^I dunno about that. They looked pretty bad against Miami.

1/26/2011 9:38:57 PM

One might day that we too looked pretty bad against Miami

1/26/2011 9:40:32 PM

ha last time i've gone into a UNC basketball game with this little expectations was sid's first year and we won

1/26/2011 9:46:32 PM

Its a winnable game this year. I wouldn't be too surprised if we came out and pounded them the first 10 minutes. Of course, as soon as ole Roy got in their face and they started playing tough defense we would crumble

1/26/2011 9:51:37 PM

Fu ck Carolina. Thats all I'm saying. Harrow's comments today kinda piss me off. NC State basketball is BIGGER tha Ryan Harrow and CJ Leslie. Who cares if they have there feelings hurt. Go work harder Harrow. Play hard defense. Those are things the coach is suppose to be doing but it seems he coaches on a whim. Soooo .... boo fucking hooo Harrow step the fuck up or shut up. Same thing goes for Leslie. If lowe can't get under there skin maybe the students and fanbase need to do it. STEP UP and quit being pussy's. BEAT the FAGHOLES

1/26/2011 10:42:33 PM

Hard to take criticism seriously from a guy who can't get 'their' and 'there' straight

And I'd think in 32 years you'd have come up with something better than FAGHOLES

[Edited on January 26, 2011 at 10:44 PM. Reason : pussy's]

1/26/2011 10:44:40 PM

--- extreme fatigue--- been crunching numbers for close to 48 hrs straight no excuse just saying FUCK the Holes

1/26/2011 10:53:33 PM

One might day??????? mr. Ernie? Seems I'm not the only one who doesn't sleep.

1/26/2011 11:18:15 PM

One might day, indeed, my man.

1/26/2011 11:25:44 PM

if the excuse for cj's shitty ass play lately was that he had the flu, why the fuck was he playing so much?

1/27/2011 10:42:08 AM

that's a pretty tough post

1/27/2011 10:54:26 AM

^^ Why didnt Smith and Howell play 70 minutes in 3 days? They're obviously well conditioned. C'mon Sid!

1/27/2011 11:09:56 AM

goddamn leslie is fucking terrible

1/29/2011 2:59:07 PM

signing day at sammy's!

1/29/2011 3:00:18 PM

^^that's a pretty tough post!

1/29/2011 3:02:22 PM

seriously...how many times has he changed the momentum of the game with his bricked 3 pointers/long 2s early in the shot clock?

1/29/2011 3:03:05 PM

you guys will bitch about anything.

1/29/2011 3:03:35 PM

how does sidney justify still playing him?

he is playing like he doesnt give a shit. he has no jumpshot or hands. he doesnt even get his goddamn hands up on defense. bench him until he grows a dick. we need a headcoach who has standards of effort that his players have to meet.

1/29/2011 3:04:37 PM

He's not having a good game.....again....

1/29/2011 3:07:01 PM